World PvP in Eureka

[Istaru]

Some people just want ways to make other players suffer, since FFXIV thankfully doesn't have a lot of those ways people can exploit to ruin other peoples game experience.

I really dislike this point of view. I know how people reach it, and it is because people who want to be bullies and jackholes use it as a cover to act in ways they want in order to be a bully or a jackhole.

Most people who enjoy PVP, especially in this game are not the people you see acting in those ways. Attacking others at spawn points, ganking newbies, doing the squat thing on corpses.

Real PVP is about my skill against another person’s skill. Anyone that takes it seriously keeps an almost honorable feel to it.

In short, most true PVP fans are nothing like what your post suggests we are.

P.S. Lace Valeria says hello to anyone reading this.

[Moomba33]

I would prefer to keep PVP separate from PVE areas.

[KisaiTenshi]

Can we get world PvP in Eureka that you can toggle on and off? And if you kill someone they drop crystals?

Hell no. No Open-world PvP in this game, ever. That's how successful games die. No game that has this, has ever lasted very long. PvP runs into a wall with being F2P/P2W, because only the people willing to spend the most amount of money on the game, ever end up in a winning position.

It's possible eventually for a game to get it right, but lets keep PvP games to the Team Fortress2/Overwatch type of team fights, and avoid open-world PvP completely.

[Souljacker]

So personally, I really love PvP and wish we had more of it and more options. My WoW character was almost exclusively a PvP character with a little light raiding and I do miss that experience that I had when I played that game.

Eureka isn't really the place to add more PvP - it's already such a terrible product on its own that adding vitriol into it in the form of players attacking one another would be catastrophic. It's already starting to take a downturn in community now that it's top-heavy and top level players are getting annoyed at the lower levels in the train. More than one instance I hit yesterday had people actively MPKing low levels and then shouting how they shouldn't be in the train. It's starting to get ugly in there and PvP would make it worse.

As much as I love PvP and think it needs more content and a serious team, it's not going to save eureka.

[Mikki]

Some people just want to watch the world burn. lol.

Open world PVP is about the most frustrating thing I've ever encountered. Back when I first started playing WoW, I remember vividly.... high level players sitting and camping low level areas just to kill new players as they spawned in. Really terrible. Made me wonder who thought this was a good idea, and also how anyone managed to get anything done with people who seemed to have no lives constantly stalking the newbies. Needless to say, I gave up on that very quickly. No thank you. Not then, not now... not ever.

[Deceptus]

Before you ask for something like this, ask how many players are willing to do this. The rewards need to be at least 80% as good as nm trains.

There exists certain people who would do the pvp just for the purpose of screwing other people.

[Krotoan]

I vote not. There is enough griefing in the zone already.

[Riardon]

No just no. I like PvP but this is a terrible idea.
You can ask for Eureka inspired PvP maps but not to convert Eureka into a PvP area.
This will not work for this game. Just forget it.

[RiyahArp]

Most people who enjoy PVP, especially in this game are not the people you see acting in those ways. Attacking others at spawn points, ganking newbies, doing the squat thing on corpses.

I've seen the first and last in this game. Spawn camping was a strategy in seal rock, and plenty of ninja would use hide to gank people coming from spawn. Sometimes one GC would spawn camp the other. I've seen squats, laughing emotes, fireworks over corpses, etc.

I don't think there's any pvp game at all that managed to keep it civil or honorable. There's a reason our shouts are only to our own side in frontlines, after all.

[Alaray]

I'm against the idea on the pure basis that FFXIV PvP is neither engaging or fun.