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  1. #101
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Raiding actually I S a limited resource due to only having one chance at loot every week. Not even one piece of loot per week, one CHANCE per week. If your stuff just never ends up dropping (very likely; how often does your stuff drop with just one run of the 24-man raids every week?), or you don't win lots, you're about as limited in getting the gear as you are with the weekly capped tomes due to how many datalogs you need. In some cases it's even worse (why do I need a whole month's worth of O5S wins just to be able to buy a single accessory?)
    You didnt understand what I meant by "limited" - raiding and getting the gear is open to everyone. It might take some time and/or luck, but you can absolutly get that gear. You having a piece of gear doesnt stop anyone else to get the same piece of gear. Thats why I compared it to housing: thats a truely limited ressource. Once I bought a house, you cant have it. But if I get my tank-belt, you can still get one too, since they're an unlimited ressource - the game will just create one for you, if you meet the requirements.

    Thats what I meant. Me raiding isnt preventing you from doing the same. Me owning my house in the Goblet is very much preventing you from owning that house.

    The answer to your question is simple - its not a great answer, but one that points to a necessary evil: To keep the content alive for longer and to make sure that we're not gearing up to fast.
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  2. #102
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
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    What negative impact is not having this gear having on you/non-raiders?

    I understand everyone wants the strongest gear possible but we have already established that no one needs that gear, after all Savage was cleared without it by many players in the first week.

    If you can't come up with a reason why not having the gear is detrimental to non-raiders I feel like your entire argument is moot.

    If the most difficult content you experience is an EX primal it seems sort of silly to say you need i370.
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  3. #103
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Well Relic being mostly glam is partly true, but by the end of the cycle it usually is bis and then gets replaced by a dungeon weapon next expansion :/
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  4. #104
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    1.5 months from now they will be handing out 370 weapons so.....................yea. Also its called Savage content for a reason
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  5. #105
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I think the sense of entitlement has got to be nipped before it's allowed to fester. You want 370 items do what people do raid for it. find groups and raid.
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  6. #106
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by LastFireAce View Post
    Lol then go do Relic even tho is currently nothing more then glam in my opinion.
    That has always been the case though. The relics only ever surpass Savage gear at the end of the expansion.
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  7. #107
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    Polyhedral Dice
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    All this talk about need, lol. You don't need more than one mount either...

    Just sayin'
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  8. #108
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    Vhoxz Cloudsword
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    Paladin Lv 70
    What other reason would we have to do savage?
    Like any MMO the best gear is locked behind raiding. As it should be!
    (this is aint wow where you get end game gear for free)
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  9. #109
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    Ayer Austen
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    The real question I have for the OP is; why do you even feel the need to get savage 370 gear? ilv is nearly pointless outside of the content you express you don't enjoy anyway. This coupled with the gear skins not being unique... and rather ugly is most cases anyway, why bother.
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidalutz View Post
    I think the sense of entitlement has got to be nipped before it's allowed to fester. You want 370 items do what people do raid for it. find groups and raid.
    You mean I don't get a reward for just trying? I thought everyone was a winner and special....
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