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    Quote Originally Posted by zuzu-bq View Post
    The already confirmed a new area around 4.3 cycle. Probably more stuff on Anemos before it? Eureka won't die as easy as Diadem did like many think since you've long term goals inside of it.
    Plus, even Krile has said that there is a barrier around their old building there...so there is that after all. That could be an interesting place(I'm hoping for a tower climbing 8-man raid, that actually takes time to go through and not just a boss battle and done).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Plus, even Krile has said that there is a barrier around their old building there...so there is that after all. That could be an interesting place(I'm hoping for a tower climbing 8-man raid, that actually takes time to go through and not just a boss battle and done).
    see now, THAT would make eureka worth it. instead of a time sink of a grind.
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    The 4.3/.5 update will likely keep us in Anemos. They'll simply add another currency, which will bring back all the high level players to NM farm again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MedSurgNursing View Post
    see now, THAT would make eureka worth it. instead of a time sink of a grind.
    Relic always been grindy in FF14, what you on about?
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    What are trusts? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizunoko View Post
    What are trusts? lol
    I'm assuming you're asking about the trust npcs from ffxi. Basically they are npc s from xi's story that you can summon via the magic menu and would fight alongside you and even do skillchains or magic bursts. Quests would unlock new ones and allow you to summon up to five to make a full party. They also had jobs and whatnot so you could have say tezen from chains of promathia and he'd use samurai skills and stuff. Trusts basically allowed people to solo group content when they couldn't find others to play with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarynth View Post
    I'm assuming you're asking about the trust npcs from ffxi. Basically they are npc s from xi's story that you can summon via the magic menu and would fight alongside you and even do skillchains or magic bursts. Quests would unlock new ones and allow you to summon up to five to make a full party. They also had jobs and whatnot so you could have say tezen from chains of promathia and he'd use samurai skills and stuff. Trusts basically allowed people to solo group content when they couldn't find others to play with.
    Thank you for the context. I kinda needed it as i only ever played a xbox trial of ff11 for like a week and got to like lvl 5 at most i think. It was very very long ago so i basically don't know anything about ff11. So basically its kinda like how you can use your squadron npc's for some dungeons?
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    Most people that are calling the content bad either don't like the game to begin with or think the NM AFK train is "the best" and that's why the content sucks to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Plus, even Krile has said that there is a barrier around their old building there...so there is that after all. That could be an interesting place(I'm hoping for a tower climbing 8-man raid, that actually takes time to go through and not just a boss battle and done).
    I expect us to have a "open dungeon" like 1.0 had. Well Anemos is almost that already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    I don't know what funnier the fact that people feel ashamed of content that they probably don't understand and feel it's crap or the fact that people need the approval of others to get some sense of validation in life lol.
    So you are claiming to miss the point on purpose because you want to mock the idea of people being followers? the same act that takes place in diadem 3.0. so you are trying to mock those that hate it by being followers of social pressure for hating a place where all they do is follow people? going this far to play "3d chess"? i assume you figured someone would be out there to bite this to call it off topic?

    assuming I am right and had a deep plan for this, in the end doesn't this fit as trolling?

    Quote Originally Posted by zuzu-bq View Post
    Most people that are calling the content bad either don't like the game to begin with or think the NM AFK train is "the best" and that's why the content sucks to them.



    I expect us to have a "open dungeon" like 1.0 had. Well Anemos is almost that already.
    isnt this a Post hoc ergo propter hoc? how do you draw the conclusion most people that hate this place also hate the game to begin with? For the other reason, you are suggesting people should aoe farm 1 hr + that leads to Carpal Tunnel? how is this the same as mashing hard core rotation for say 5 mins, take a break and repeat? Even in dungeons you get brief breaks, I never felt so strained in doing something like this before. The only time I got close to this is building large walls, and the clicking overload there is turning in like 400? materials when it asks for them 3-5 sections at a time. This is a large part where I am just going to get level 20 and be done with it, I am not even going to go after one of those i350 gear because I do not wanna sit there clicking all the conversions.

    For the thread title, this reminded me of a song, now if I change a few words...
    A long long time ago
    I can still remember how
    final fantasy used to make me smile
    And I knew if I had my chance
    That I could make those players dance
    And maybe they'd be happy for a while
    But march made me shiver
    With eureka, SE will soon deliver
    Bad news on the doorstep
    I couldn't take one more step
    I can't remember the players' case
    When I read about his innovative place
    Something touched me deep inside
    The day Final fantasy died
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 03-29-2018 at 04:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    So you are claiming to miss the point on purpose because you want to mock the idea of people being followers? ...

    Apparently looks like your missing the whole point so I will try an d make it as simple as possible for you. Lets break up from the beginning shall we?


    Quote Originally Posted by Ssmiley_Bjakkzz View Post
    I really hope Eureka dies...i lost friends thanks to this crap...
    This was the origin of their response....

    I really hope Eureka dies.... Obviously they had a very poor experience either by not being able to understand ed or really look deeper into it on how to level up faster.

    i lost friends thanks to this crap... Blaming the company over content that has NOT been out for even a month do to their friends leaving and not realizing that every mind and perspective is different gives you a clear understanding that they are not patient and willing to step back and perhaps realize that Eureka is only an excuse. It's optional content so rage quitting over something like this gives you two options. First they need to find more information and judge properly, second FFXIV players get burnt out and need a break. They have a life and person is probably so into it and really does not go out and try new things. Hence their friends used it as an excuse instead of hurting their feelings.

    Now how it was followed by;


    Quote Originally Posted by Kayrie View Post
    lol,

    I think eureka brought shame to FF14 ARR ... I will never introduce such content to a friend... they will laugh at me =(

    I think eureka brought shame to FF14 ARR they called it Eureka, though I think they might of meant Diadem which was similar, was a bit difficult to access to begin with and many players did not understand the main concept of it. FC airship or NPC once group was formed. I have an FC and actually took groups in. SE listened and made it into an instance that they can go in solo for faster access. They learned based on feed back. Once they understood the purpose of it, what they can gain from it, it did not seem that bad.

    I will never introduce such content to a friend.
    Sure in their perspective it is an option to them, however with the statement that followed; they will laugh at me =( is very obvious that they value what their friend thinks of them and are influenced by them in one way or another, could be an unconsciously response that got triggered relating the key word friend.

    As for your most recent statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    So you are claiming to miss the point on purpose because you want to mock the idea of people being followers? the same act that takes place in diadem 3.0. so you are trying to mock those that hate it by being followers of social pressure for hating a place where all they do is follow people? going this far to play "3d chess"? i assume you figured someone would be out there to bite this to call it off topic?

    assuming I am right and had a deep plan for this, in the end doesn't this fit as trolling?
    So you are claiming to miss the point on purpose because you want to mock the idea of people being followers? Not mocking it is a known fact in society and how groups work.

    he same act that takes place in diadem 3.0. Following a group inside of the game to achieve a goal that makes sense in this case being a NM train, makes sense so while it may seem pointless it makes a valid reason to be followed. How people react to it is up to them not the company, hence AFK players on the side. The comment in regards to how people accept things and have FEAR ( False Expectations Appearing Real ) rather than say, "As a fan of FF I was disappointment in Eureka, I would hesitate recommending it to my friend being we may not agree." is a more confident statement that people laughing at me.


    assuming I am right and had a deep plan for this, in the end doesn't this fit as trolling? Does it? is it not standing afk in a Diadem/Eureka area while everyone else does the work considered trolling as well? Could they help and start on near by NMS to make it abetter run? It's all about choices... This is were your missing the point. Everything is based on different perspectives and just like anywhere else how information is communicated and perceived makes a difference. I'm no English teach, however even you can't be that dense to understand that perception and reality are two different things. Some people are more confident than others and are more honest with themselves and can admit to their own faults and not be ashamed of them. They speak their mind and move on, on the other hand the ratio of the opposite where they rather blame their shortcoming or take responsibility outweighs them.
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