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  1. #11
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    Brynne's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Brynne Lagaao
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    Siren
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    That random timer doesn't do anything to prevent flipping. its a total waste of space
    (except maybe balmung or other massive pop servers)
    It will do a lot more if they apply it to relocations as well as new purchases. However, I agree that it's not a perfect system and that the flipping will always exist in some form as long as houses are desired by more players than they have supply for. I think they should de-couple functionality like gardening and company workshops from housing and make apartments more attractive as an alternative, for a start. But this is getting off-topic. Basically, if we ever get to a point where the demand is comfortably met and there's no market for flippers, then yeah, I'd be all for house re-sell and trade options. I still think we need some kind of housing option for moving servers, but those others will have to wait until the flipping is under control, unfortunately.
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  2. #12
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    MizArai's Avatar
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    Yui Savage
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    There's a guy on my server who is still flipping plots quite frequently because the timer does absolutely nothing to stop him doing so.
    In fact he's getting extra gil as a result of it.
    Because if he sells a large for 200m he doesn't relinquish the plot. Instead he just goes and relocates to a small in the Goblet thus getting back like 30% of the price of the large on top of the 200m he's been paid to release the plot... So next time a medium or large comes up he can snag it straight away via relocataion and flip it again.....
    He's not getting extra gil above his sell price. If you relocate from a mansion to a small, you just get to move for free. You don't get any of the extra 30% back.
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  3. #13
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    That random timer doesn't do anything to prevent flipping. its a total waste of space
    (except maybe balmung or other massive pop servers)
    All they need to do is make the timer apply to relocations in addition to new purchases. Who's going to pay a flipper to relinquish their house when there's no guarantee they'll be the first to click the placard when the timer expires?
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  4. #14
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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    All they need to do is make the timer apply to relocations in addition to new purchases. Who's going to pay a flipper to relinquish their house when there's no guarantee they'll be the first to click the placard when the timer expires?
    Nah cos then the problem would only transition into afk botters at the placards... spam clicking it every few seconds.... until the timer lets them buy it.
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  5. #15
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    That random timer doesn't do anything to prevent flipping. its a total waste of space
    (except maybe balmung or other massive pop servers)

    Oh common, sure it's not completely bullet proof or perfect. But the system does a lot to reduce flipping. Saying it "doesn't do anything" or "total waste" is just pure disingenuous.
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  6. #16
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    Nah cos then the problem would only transition into afk botters at the placards... spam clicking it every few seconds.... until the timer lets them buy it.
    One of the most foolish things a "legitimate" player could do is use a bot to buy a house. Players might overlook afk bots they run into randomly when those bots aren't any place special or doing anything of interest. An bot planted at a placard of a house for sale is going to get noted and reported by other players who might also be trying to purchase that plot.

    It's a good way to lose the house and the account.
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  7. #17
    Player Beckett's Avatar
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    Beckard Arseneau
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    Midgardsormr
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    It would be nice, but it would overshadow their relocation system, which only refunds 30%. Though it does have the perk of not needing a permit for a new home and transfers everything for you.
    With the new timers in place, relocation is a lot more appealing. To the point that people will buy a small house a full price just to be able to bypass the timers on Medium and Large plots. It's unlikely anyone would use a resell feature unless they were planning on permanently giving up housing (on that server).
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  8. #18
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I kinda wish I had the gil to have this dillemia.
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