What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Alleo]

To make sure I understood this right, you are basically saying I should not call people white knights (even if it is perfectly describing how they are acting) because that just gives them ammo to make me look bad "lul you are 'insulting' people by calling them 'white knights' in an attempt to convince others to ignore what I have to say since it is a 'fallacy' I see this is true, but it is definitely hard not to say anything when people are flat out doing that with all the word twisting.

Exactly. I do have my own thoughts about people in some forums that I visited but its probably for the best not to post them even if they describe the person quite right. Its just better to ignore it and just post your ideas. Thus nobody can use your post against you in any way even if they are wrong. I agree that its hard but imo you can point out word twisting by posting the evidence but still best to not attack personally because that will put the focus on this and not the argument itself.

Also on topic:

Really I am fine with people having fun. For example I dont raid and yet I was happy for those that do and got the Ultimate challenge and the weapons with it. But my problem is that this was THE casual content and yet its something that is probably more fun for a very specific kind of player. Those that are truly just enjoying a sole monster grind from old MMOs. (And no this is not bad) If they had used different ways to do things in there (and no I dont mean grind for hours on single mobs or do NM fate train) next to this grind this would have given people a choice. You could still love it with its grind and dangerous nature but others could also enjoy it for different reason..and I honestly thought that we would get something big with a diverse way to do stuff..because imo it seems that mostly the relic step that only used one (RNG) way to get the items was truly hated and the rest was mostly mixed. I did often dislike the amount you needed but I still did and kinda enjoyed the relic steps where I could do it in different ways. The only thing that I have wanted for Eureka was that we can do this there too with different activities and that maybe even gatherers and crafters could gain it. Instead we got a one way grind (with an maybe not intended way by the playerbase).

And without meanging it to be negative its kinda interesting that some players seems to enjoy this more because of the community and not because of the content itself. I mean its great that people rezz, that you can have fun with them and more but I do question myself it this is the sign of a good content or more the sign of a community that can make something great. In that way couldnt every little content be kinda fun with that view? So I question: How much is it fun for some (Not All!) players because of other people and not because the content itself is fun. For me it would be the best if a content can survive without that and be fun on its own and then have the community part on top of it.

About the hotfixes: Well they are alright but nothing that will imo change the experience for those that have a problem leveling right now. It might just mean that you get a bit more exp if you do it solo or with a few people but thats still way too tedious imo and will not change the problem that people can be left behind.

I am also still going to hold onto my second mount drop...so that maybe one day that will get tradeable too, so that I can gift that to one of my ingame friends or sell it to someone that is just unlucky..or if they dont want to do that maybe they could give us "totem" like items where people can trade it x amount of the boxes to get a rex or something..I mean its just bad when you have over 1000+ boxes but not a single drop that you wanted.

[Mahrze]

・In The Forbidden Land, Eureka, the draw-in effect of the Predatorial Instinct ability used by the Notorious Monster Polyphemus would sometimes take a moment to register, making it impossible to avoid 10,000-tonze Swing.

At least this will be one less issue vs the rush mob pulling adds. But its a start.

[Metsonm]

How much has solo exp gain from trash mobs been increased? Because less than 1% a kill at like 30s a kill was horrendous.

[Acantha]

So, what do you guys think of the hotfixes?

Mostly glad, although I was really hoping they'd make the mount tradeable and it doesn't look like it is feel terrible sitting on a spare, saving it for my bf at the mo but also sitting on over 1k lockboxes so who knows might end up with a third

[Lilseph]

So, what do you guys think of the hotfixes?

The one fix of Polyphemus is very nice. I've seen plenty of people becoming victims of that mentioned delay (myself included). Other than that, being max level already, the changes on the experience gain don't affect me, but I'm glad at the same time because I have some friends still trapped in their low levels. Hopefully this help them to level faster.

The removal of the untradeable status on glamour items and orchestrion rolls are kinda useless, imo. Everyone and their moms has plenty of these pieces already, so I don't think they will have a high market value. Though, it would be nice if (as someone else mentioned) we could desynth them. Problem is, these are level 1 pieces.

I haven't tested the drop changes yet, I have nearly 2k boxes in my inventory. I'll have to become He-Man to endure all that clicking. Was hoping for some love on the crystal turn in side, because I have about 3k crystals and plenty of relics to complete. This is going to be kind of a pain in the butt.

[Remedi]

Someone has tested the new solo exp values and the chain by any chance?

[Thayos]

I'm at work and waiting for someone to post numbers from chains and soloing post patch.

[RiyahArp]

Someone has tested the new solo exp values and the chain by any chance?

It's a bit of a joke.

At 11, I started out at 128 exp solo as rdm, so maybe a 30% increase. The bonus you only get at every 5 levels and its for the level only. so i went 128, 144, 148, 152, and then 192 at chain 5. Then its down to 160, 163, 167, 171, then 384 at 10.

Highest non chain exp was 240, highest chain bonus was 640 at 30

Complete numbers:

128
144
148
152
192
160
163
167
171
384
175
179
183
186
256
194
198
202
206
512
209
213
217
221
320
229
232
236
240
640

Level 11, on mindflayers.

I had two protean crystals drop. I think this might be a 30% increase over solo, but in party this probably is going to be a lot more modest a boost, and doesn't solve much of anything. Even solo its not particularly good, because roughly estimating it makes it about 5kish for a chain 30? at a tnl of 76000.

[Remedi]

mh it clarifies that they idd added a multiplier for each 5 segments of the chain since I don't recall them existing before.

[RiyahArp]

They did, but that's only an extra 1000ish exp over the normal chain values. I think the amount they boosted is 25-30%, because last time i soloed at 8 or 9, you'd get 87 per starting mob.

I didn't test this on mobs under my level, where there is no chain, nor duo.

I guess if you have nothing to do and want to grind out some exp without being part of the chain its ok, but you're losing out on bonus exp if you don't fight things exactly your level and its still slow going. Keep in mind I also use rdm, which can reliably chain 30; tanks and healers will not be able to reach that, and mindflayers have incredibly low dps with no surprise moves. The puks for example at 11 have an incredibly powerful stoneskin which makes chaining them solo impossible. I did notice that the level 11 skeletons started at 140 exp, so it might be good to try undead whenever possible.