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    Culfinrandir's Avatar
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer View Post
    ... You may not agree with it but those are the rules.
    I don't know if you read the post above yours but the problem is that people are using banned tools to get to the hunt before anyone else. S Ranks need to be spawned using certain processes, like catching a certain rare fish during specific weather, so require *work* & determination to spawn. The cheaters are waiting until someone else does the work & then using hacks to get the benefits. In the process it is making it so that those doing the work get nothing at all. Imagine if you were doing a treasure chest & someone walked up & took the treasure after you killed the monsters (not possible, thankfully!).

    In the past GMs have said that it could be classed as griefing to deliberately 'steal' a S Rank but they have since made opposing statements.
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    Delsinadina Tec'k
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    In the past GMs have said that it could be classed as griefing to deliberately 'steal' a S Rank but they have since made opposing statements.
    Yes, but I don't think this is entirely their fault, to be quite honest. After these kinds of complaints reached Mr. Yoshida's ears, he stated that "Hunts aren't being played like they're supposed to," that it's supposed to be a "surprise" for players and that the Hunts can get killed on a first-come-first-serve basis.

    For a lot of the Hunts, I could totally see this. With Nunywumi (Southern Thanalan S Rank), he only spawns when ALL FATEs in the area have been cleared (none left to expire, none failed) for a full one hour period. Something like that does not naturally occur, except during certain special events (like, for instance, the Yo-Kai Watch event, where people were spamming FATEs to get the Yo-Kai Medallions). It actually has to be worked at.

    Although I don't like early pulling, I fully understand it's not against any rules. This group, however, has been doing this with pretty much every S Rank Hunt on the server, and has been doing it for quite a long time. It's become so bad that they even have a reputation on other servers.

    When you purposely go to pull Hunts before even those that actually spawned it get a chance to get there, over and over and over, I don't understand how it can not be considered griefing. Add in the shady way in which they do it, and it's rather extraordinary that the GMs would go to any length to defend the offending party.

    @Alien_Gamer, when it's just a matter of "early pulling," I can handle that. We had the same thing on Exodus before I left. It was annoying, but it wasn't anywhere near this level.
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