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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    To get back to the topic: This shows that they have quite the problem with communication..nothing like that was ever told to us before it. Maybe tell us before that you plan on creating a system where people can just grind again..(because the grind at the start of an MMO is so great for many..)
    I think it's more like the NA/EU community have a problem with communication because it seems JP gets it, so perhaps it's not a problem about the dev team but commuinity management and we should probably press that.
    I mean if also the rumor that JP gets more dev talks than us is true than the men in middle are not up to par and should be riled up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    I think it's more like the NA/EU community have a problem with communication because it seems JP gets it, so perhaps it's not a problem about the dev team but commuinity management and we should probably press that.
    I mean if also the rumor that JP gets more dev talks than us is true than the men in middle are not up to par and should be riled up
    Especially since the last few surveys have shown that NA alone is I think already bigger than JP and together with EU we are the majority of the playerbase right now. And yet the JP playerbase gets these liveletters, visits, Yoshida writes whole pages in a magazine about his thoughts and more and we only get them either really late as a translation (be it official or fan) or nothing at all. You have Koji Fox as a staff member why cant he for example visit our servers?
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Especially since the last few surveys have shown that NA alone is I think already bigger than JP and together with EU we are the majority of the playerbase right now. And yet the JP playerbase gets these liveletters, visits, Yoshida writes whole pages in a magazine about his thoughts and more and we only get them either really late as a translation (be it official or fan) or nothing at all. You have Koji Fox as a staff member why cant he for example visit our servers?
    It is the language.
    Takes WoW for exmaple, I havent see WoW devs ever speak to Korean, China, and Taiwan WoW community.
    All of the communications are done with English community because they speaks English
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    It is the language.
    Takes WoW for exmaple, I havent see WoW devs ever speak to Korean, China, and Taiwan WoW community.
    All of the communications are done with English community because they speaks English
    Like I wrote in the other thread, English is one of the major languages all around the world and is probably spoken by a huge amount of people. You learn it even in Japan and on top of that they have staff that should have English as its main language (Koji Fox for example) and thus should be able to talk to us. WoW probably also has it in English because the majority of their playerbase understands it. The majority of the playerbase here in FF14 is not from Japan anymore but from the western countries. So having still no direct english translator in the liveletters or at least have some of the english speaking staff visiting our worlds would help. Or some more posts on this forum.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Like I wrote in the other thread, English is one of the major languages all around the world and is probably spoken by a huge amount of people. You learn it even in Japan and on top of that they have staff that should have English as its main language (Koji Fox for example) and thus should be able to talk to us. WoW probably also has it in English because the majority of their playerbase understands it. The majority of the playerbase here in FF14 is not from Japan anymore but from the western countries. So having still no direct english translator in the liveletters or at least have some of the english speaking staff visiting our worlds would help. Or some more posts on this forum.
    Are you really want to use the player population size and language distribution?
    Technically, Chinese as a language is as major as English and China WoW has biggest WoW population. Did Blizzard devs uses Chinese to communicate? Why would you expect S/E devs do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Are you really want to use the player population size and language distribution?
    Technically, Chinese as a language is as major as English and China WoW has biggest WoW population. Did Blizzard devs uses Chinese to communicate? Why would you expect S/E devs do?
    P.142 of What's your first impression of Eureka?!
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    Quit the wowwannabeezzzzzbs
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    I really wish we had a live chat like twitch on a stream or se customer services on permanence on the forums, even if no se employee or staff was permanently available, that doesn't mean that it couldn't be moderated.If I remember correctly,years ago there was somewhat of a gm recruiting campaign,the same thing could be applied here in theory(with a well thought system of course)Now I will admit that I cannot claim that I would be best placed for the spot, or even to make the rules, but that would be a step forward I think.

    P.s: A language filter & some later analysis of the chat could be done I think,I mean its not like our posts arn't being checked already correct? Or am I completely off track with this comment? This IMO would allow us to see online & offline & then maybe MAYBE we could have a live chat with the dev in charge of the forums at times.Thats my suggestion,besides that its good to dream & idk what to add,I'm done for tonight.Gn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Like I wrote in the other thread, English is one of the major languages all around the world and is probably spoken by a huge amount of people. You learn it even in Japan and on top of that they have staff that should have English as its main language (Koji Fox for example) and thus should be able to talk to us. WoW probably also has it in English because the majority of their playerbase understands it. The majority of the playerbase here in FF14 is not from Japan anymore but from the western countries. So having still no direct english translator in the liveletters or at least have some of the english speaking staff visiting our worlds would help. Or some more posts on this forum.
    I just want to point out that while what you say about the English language is true, not every foreign business care for it. Actually it would be better to say some will cater to various degrees. You'll have companies that will fulfill their due diligence to make sure their product, communication-wise, is fully taken care of and then some. Other companies will keep it at a really bare minimum to cover necessities only (think customer support for example).

    What hurts me though is that there's no...equivalent, for a better lack of word, of Yoshi-P interacting ingame with players NA/EU side. Community members here stick to basic moderating and relaying info...and that's it. Yoshi frequently visits the playerbase, turning his arrival into a pseudo-event, celebrity style. We don't get that at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Are you really want to use the player population size and language distribution?
    Technically, Chinese as a language is as major as English and China WoW has biggest WoW population. Did Blizzard devs uses Chinese to communicate? Why would you expect S/E devs do?
    You really love trying to downplay anyone that dislikes diadem 3.0 dont you? instead of addressing her post like the next one I am about to quote, your last 2 posts adds nothing to the discussion while pulling weak strawman/red herring attempts. Everyone knows about that little fact, however we are talking about FFXIV's PLAYERBASE not the world population statics.

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    I just want to point out that while what you say about the English language is true, not every foreign business care for it. Actually it would be better to say some will cater to various degrees. You'll have companies that will fulfill their due diligence to make sure their product, communication-wise, is fully taken care of and then some. Other companies will keep it at a really bare minimum to cover necessities only (think customer support for example).

    What hurts me though is that there's no...equivalent, for a better lack of word, of Yoshi-P interacting ingame with players NA/EU side. Community members here stick to basic moderating and relaying info...and that's it. Yoshi frequently visits the playerbase, turning his arrival into a pseudo-event, celebrity style. We don't get that at all.
    yeah yoshi p and the others do have translators and such during the live letters, so there is that. However I am not going to sit here and accept they have no one to interact with the NA/EU playerbase like he interacts with the Japanese one. Even if they lack that ability, SE makes more then enough money to hire a few more people that can do such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    You really love trying to downplay anyone that dislikes diadem 3.0 dont you? instead of addressing her post like the next one I am about to quote, your last 2 posts adds nothing to the discussion while pulling weak strawman/red herring attempts. Everyone knows about that little fact, however we are talking about FFXIV's PLAYERBASE not the world population statics.
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    Are you describing yourself?
    You are the one who categorize anyone that disagree with you into Diadem 3.0 lover.
    I don't like Diadem and never touch it again after tried it once.
    How about read all of the posts?
    I was explaining that it is a language issue, in which it is.
    Care to explain why language is not an issue that Yoship's Walk and Adrenaline Rush TV being a Japanese only show?

    I don't even understand where your immerse hate on Eureka is based on when it is an optional content.
    Like Diadem, don't do it if you don't like it.
    Yoship already announced the next step of Eureka, what do you expect to achieve with your crusade?
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