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  1. #11
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    Shouko's Avatar
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    Aliiza Duskryn
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    Jenova
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    Weaver Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by rxnin View Post
    SE doesn't ban botters only people who use Ungarmax.
    Suspension isn't the same thing as a ban. Only thing that gets banned is your account, but you're free to make another one and pay for the game again, nothing new there.

    Bots get banned all the time, but usually Gil Sellers or RMT, but they don't stay banned because the people that run them can just make a new account, buy the game again and keep botting. If you try to do something about the bots themselves they just get past the stop gap measures and keep going, you can sue the people who make them as they usually are in different countries that have different laws about it.

    As long as there's money to be made in reality off a video game, people will make bots, cheat, hack, do shady things like Lootboxes, etc.
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  2. #12
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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Astrophysx View Post
    and that jerk MCH that avoids killing ice and likes pushing people off cliffs.
    I attack the ice but man I love that whoosh when people go flailing off the cliff. <3
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
    "We want the ability to earn past Feast rewards!" - HAHA no that's sacred.

  3. #13
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    rxnin's Avatar
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    Kandy Kayn
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    Zalera
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    Suspension isn't the same thing as a ban. Only thing that gets banned is your account, but you're free to make another one and pay for the game again, nothing new there.

    Bots get banned all the time, but usually Gil Sellers or RMT, but they don't stay banned because the people that run them can just make a new account, buy the game again and keep botting. If you try to do something about the bots themselves they just get past the stop gap measures and keep going, you can sue the people who make them as they usually are in different countries that have different laws about it.

    As long as there's money to be made in reality off a video game, people will make bots, cheat, hack, do shady things like Lootboxes, etc.
    Where did I mention suspension?
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  4. #14
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    Astrophysx's Avatar
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    Bubble'gum Blue
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    Masamune
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    Dragoon Lv 53
    I have a suggestion to make it difficult for botting - Captcha for each queue. That’s right, a verification that you’re human and not a bot in order to queue. This will annoy the hell out of other players, but I think it will work.
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  5. #15
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    Divinemights's Avatar
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Leviathan
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Astrophysx View Post
    I have a suggestion to make it difficult for botting - Captcha for each queue. That’s right, a verification that you’re human and not a bot in order to queue. This will annoy the hell out of other players, but I think it will work.
    I thought the number of bots on Primal is not a lot.
    It is maybe about 5 or 6.
    Bot issue is mostly Aether problem.
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  6. #16
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    I don't Frontlines much these days but I've heard we have just a problem with bots as anyone else.
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    http://king.canadane.com

  7. #17
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    Crusty Sock
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 70
    The bot in question hasn't PvP'ed for 3 weeks! Maybe he/she got banned.
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  8. #18
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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    I asked a question about this to the community manager for the upcoming Letter from the Producer... it has 34 likes so far. We will see if it gets answered!
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
    "We want the ability to earn past Feast rewards!" - HAHA no that's sacred.

  9. #19
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Astrophysx View Post
    I have a suggestion to make it difficult for botting - Captcha for each queue. That’s right, a verification that you’re human and not a bot in order to queue. This will annoy the hell out of other players, but I think it will work.
    Capchas don't necessarily work on bots, especially not in a game like XIV that has little security measures in place to keep the data being sent from the servers from being decoded.

    They could easily make a script that auto-inputs the correct capcha (And the RMT bots already do so during their automated account creation process), as they're actively reading the data sent from the servers to locate targets as well as react to variables like procs triggering.
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  10. #20
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    Bubble'gum Blue
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    Masamune
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    Dragoon Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Capchas don't necessarily work on bots, especially not in a game like XIV that has little security measures in place to keep the data being sent from the servers from being decoded.

    They could easily make a script that auto-inputs the correct capcha (And the RMT bots already do so during their automated account creation process), as they're actively reading the data sent from the servers to locate targets as well as react to variables like procs triggering.
    Ah I see. Very well then... bot stomp this weekend anyone? XD
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