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  1. #71
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    Bernkastelx's Avatar
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    Clown Conductor
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    Lamia
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    Summoner Lv 90
    You know what would have kept this content on life support longer if they didn't only put 1/4 of the nms nostalgia weapons/armor. Where is ridill from fafnir? Joyeuse from the bishop? Even Algol from amarok would be nice. (Yes I know algol drops from cerberus but he is already used in world of darkness.) Doesn't help we can't even dye the stuff for real delayed this much and they couldn't even take the time to make them dye able.
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  2. #72
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    Maero's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    When people get high level, they can't help low levels. The level gap causes the low levels to get literally zero XP from all normal mobs in the place.

    It's not a matter of want. Eureka's design flat out punishes your group for helping once the gap gets to a certain point. It's exactly as pants on head stupid as it sounds.
    Well this may explain why none want me in their groups as i am a little level 8..
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  3. #73
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    Wrothgar77's Avatar
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    Klu Ya
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Well this may explain why none want me in their groups as i am a little level 8..
    Yeah, this was a huge slap once I went as a lvl 17 to help my lvl 4 son and he got squat. That is very annoying.
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  4. #74
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Man so eureka is even more annoying now
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  5. #75
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    Ilyrian's Avatar
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    Ilyrian Silvermoon
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    If it dies quick it will be because people rushed it because they were affraid it would die quickly... self fulfilling prophecy...
    Definitely this – I know I did.
    I think that 'fear of missing out' is what's adding to the dissatisfaction with it; I felt an enormous pressure that if I didn't get it all done quickly it would be immeasurably harder with time. That isn't conducive to fun game play. That said; now it's done and I have a handle on it I don't mind it so much. Self-fullinging prophecy.
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  6. #76
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    Wrothgar77's Avatar
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    Klu Ya
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 70
    So I did a really small experiment today - deliberately de-levelled from 20 back to 19. Did not regret it, will do again. Getting xp from nm's again was very satisfying. I might go so far as to de-level to 11 so I can level with my son.
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  7. #77
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    Gimorian401's Avatar
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    Skye Vrcyee
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    Excalibur
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Without a way for people entering into Eureka having a way to level quickly or alternate ways of getting the crystals (Ive seen suggestions of dailies or a weekly for exp and crystal gain). I see problems when a lot of the hardcore players get done. Though I have seen a number of people who enjoyed the grind of ff11 staying with this even though they have the gear they want. All end game is a grind we all know this I for one enjoy having another way to grind and have the nostalgia of ff11 helping me enjoy this
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  8. #78
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    When people get high level, they can't help low levels. The level gap causes the low levels to get literally zero XP from all normal mobs in the place.

    It's not a matter of want. Eureka's design flat out punishes your group for helping once the gap gets to a certain point. It's exactly as pants on head stupid as it sounds.
    Why don't you consider the possibility of high level players making low level FATEs spawn in no time for low level players to get insane EXP? Why would grouping be exclusively for grinding trash and nothing else? FATEs themselves are enough to get to twenty in no time without the need to get trash XP at all.
    I get that trash exp + FATE exp is the optimal way, but FATE exp alone is already good enough. So, if you can't get the "best" option, why not settle for the "good" one, which will get the job done anyway?
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  9. #79
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Why don't you consider the possibility of high level players making low level FATEs spawn in no time for low level players to get insane EXP? Why would grouping be exclusively for grinding trash and nothing else? FATEs themselves are enough to get to twenty in no time without the need to get trash XP at all.
    I get that trash exp + FATE exp is the optimal way, but FATE exp alone is already good enough. So, if you can't get the "best" option, why not settle for the "good" one, which will get the job done anyway?
    I don't think SE expected a train and I would venture to guess that will be changing soon enough as they modify how experience is awarded in the future. And yeah I've done nothing but train on an alt and couldn't understand why I couldn't do the level 3 quest. It was because i never got a protean crystal and I had reached level 6.
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  10. #80
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    Niroken's Avatar
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    Nanaki Naki
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    Definitely this – I know I did.
    I think that 'fear of missing out' is what's adding to the dissatisfaction with it; I felt an enormous pressure that if I didn't get it all done quickly it would be immeasurably harder with time. That isn't conducive to fun game play. That said; now it's done and I have a handle on it I don't mind it so much. Self-fullinging prophecy.
    It's not really a self-fulfilling prophecy if it's made to get worse by design, all gear in the game has the same problem. Unless you are only in it for glamour, every second you don't have your gear is a second closer to it being obsolete.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I don't think SE expected a train and I would venture to guess that will be changing soon enough as they modify how experience is awarded in the future.
    Which is odd because it's not like this hasn't happened before. Several times in fact.
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    Last edited by Niroken; 03-22-2018 at 02:59 AM.

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