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  1. #11
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    Jkap_Goat's Avatar
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    It might just be a reference then! I guess we don't have to trust any Sharlayan :P
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    At most some ancient Miqo'tes were called Mithra, possibly even being ancestors to either one or both of our current tribes (most likely the Sunseekers since to my understanding they are much closer to what Mithra were like compared to the Moon ones.) But XI itself is not XIV's ancient past, and thus the Mithra of XIV are not XI, just named as a refrence to them from our prespective.

    Shantatto is specifically noted as being similar to a Lalafell but different enough for people to tell when she shows up, so we know that people wouldn't automatically think "Lalafell" when it comes to Tarutarus in-universe, same would probably be for Mithra if any were to suddenly exist in the present.
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    I think Koji hates us
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    I am really starting to think Hydaelin is Vana'diel after it got struck by a meator (Think of how the dinosaurs got wiped out)

    And this REALLY helps the rp lore I have for Athena! (Who is a reincarnation of Tohihroyu, a Mithra. You might be wondering why a Femroe and not a Miq'ote? cause of her affinity to the Galka and that after retiring from Adventuring she sails away to an island desert city populated by Galka and eventually becomes the Sultana of the Galka since there is already a Talekeeper.

    Sorry for rambling, its just a theory I have and like expanding on my own lore for my character(s) ^^;
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    Last edited by DiscoDuck; 03-18-2018 at 04:38 PM.

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    We should be used to names from other games being reused in FFXIV by now. I'm not sure why these kinds of questions keep popping up.

    Just because a name is mentioned doesn't mean it's the literal same thing as the game it came from.

    Crystal tower in FFXIV is not the literal crystal tower from FFIII
    Rabanastre is not the literal Rabanastre from FFXII
    We have characters like Krile, Ramza, and now Galuf showing up, but these are not literally the same people from their respective games.

    The same thing is going on with the drop of Mithra in this flavor text. They are not the literal Mithra from FFXI just something in FFXIV with the same name.

    Apparently it's the name used by Sharlayan scholars to refer to an ancient species of Miqote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unittj View Post
    I think Koji hates us
    I don't know about hates, but I am beginning to suspect there's a shadow panel that gets together every patch cycle to decide where they're going to affix an ostensibly random reference to Gaius van Baelsar, and how best to phrase it to raise my blood pressure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eureka
    Friend of mine in the Immortal Flames, back in Eorzea, told me all about him. Said he led an elite unit of adventurers into the Praetorium and faced down Gaius van Baelsar himself! Be amazing to meet a man like that, don't you think?
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    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
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    If you remember the FFXI and FFXIII crossover events, both stated that Lightning and Shantotto came from "other stars" which also correlates to the main quest with the Warriors of Light/Darkness. So my understanding is that Vana'diel and Ivalice do exist, but they are different planets within the same universe.
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    well I'm personally gonna go with Enkidoh's "it's a meta reference" plus a dose of "Koji thinks he's funny again" for this one. Also here's what the German client says:
    tooltip: Ähnelt einer gewissen Miqo'te. Resembles a certain Miqo'te
    Minion list description: Ein Mechaniker der Gelehrten Baldesions schuf diese Puppe. Historiker können glockenlang darüber sprechen, warum sie einer Miqo'te ähnelt, oder was es mit dem Scorpio-Rüstschutz auf sich hat, den die Puppe trägt. A mechanic of the students of Baldesion created this doll. Historians can talk for bells about why it resembles a Miqo'te, or about the meaning of the Scorpio harness it wears
    Hover over tooltip: Nicht zu verwechseln mit anderen Felidae. Not to confuse with other felidae
    Hover over quote: M-Miau... Schnurrr schnurrr schnurrr - Traditionelle Grussworte der Mithra M-mew... purrr purrr purrr - traditional Mithra greetings

    also the JP description roughly reads as: "A mechanic of the students of Baldesion created this doll. Appears to be a recreation of an imaginary ancestor to the Miqo'te. Wears a Scorpio-harness that appeared in ancient literature, which makes you feel that the creator feared no cost in creating it".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malistaire View Post
    If you remember the FFXI and FFXIII crossover events, both stated that Lightning and Shantotto came from "other stars" which also correlates to the main quest with the Warriors of Light/Darkness. So my understanding is that Vana'diel and Ivalice do exist, but they are different planets within the same universe.
    Since other universes presumably contain stars, as well, there's no reason to suspect that the "other stars" being referred to here must be in the same universe as Hyaedalyn.

    Seriously, the cosmology of FFXIII does not mesh well with FFXIV at all, and FFXI has some pretty severe conflicts, as well, such as the Cloud of Darkness being a nonsentient cosmic "weather", rather than a malevolent entity from the Void. It seems extraordinarily unlikely that they share a universe with each other, or with FFXIV.

    I mean, you COULD go so far as to postulate that each world, in spite of being in the same universe, has its own microcosm of universal principles, its own pantheon of deities, its own array of cosmic forces - but if you're going to go that far, why is it so important to place them in the same universe in the first place? Presumably, the goal in doing so is to draw commonality between them, is it not?
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