What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Velhart]

Yeah, but that was an announcement saying that those were the changes after "reviewing all of the feedback from players worldwide".

It didn't sound like a response that was "reviewing all of the feedback from players worldwide". people were giving a lot more feedback than just lockboxes. In addition, where does it say they are continuing to look into it? why is it on the customer to assume the best from the company?

Im not saying they should be silent. I'm saying that could have been worded better.

There is no perfect wording for people who are in backlash mode right now. There is no need to pick apart something when we know what is going on. They are taking in feedback, making minor adjustments where they can, and they will likely down the line talk about the situation with it similar to Diadem.

[Fyce]

There is no perfect wording for people who are in backlash mode right now. There is no need to pick apart something when we know what is going on. They are taking in feedback, making minor adjustments where they can, and they will likely down the line talk about the situation with it similar to Diadem.

> People complain about Eureka.
> SE communicate some easy changes they'll do three days only after release.
> People complain SE doesn't communicate, assume that SE won't do anything else and want EVERYTHING NOW.

Official forums checks out.

There are Fate trains in Eureka.
There are Hate trains in the forums.
Both are very similar in some aspects, if you think about it. Especially the "brainless zergrush" part.

[Deceptus]

the only reason you drama queens are so buttblasted about eureka is the lack of a more meaningful reward.

Do you realize how ignorant this sounds? Because Hydaelyn forbid we want to be properly rewarded for our efforts.

Effort vs reward is the basis for any MMO, heck, even real jobs. If the rewards aren't sufficient no one does the jobs.

[Kallera]

> People complain about Eureka.
> SE communicate some easy changes they'll do three days only after release.
> People complain SE doesn't communicate, assume that SE won't do anything else and want EVERYTHING NOW.

Official forums checks out.

There are Fate trains in Eureka.
There are Hate trains in the forums.
Both are very similar in some aspects, if you think about it. Especially the "brainless zergrush" part.

You are strawmanning. leaving out the fact that there are lots of posts that are also unrelated to lockboxes or even the rewards in general in Eureka being the reason they have a problem with it.

[Fyce]

You are strawmanning. leaving out the fact that there are lots of posts that are also unrelated to lockboxes or even the rewards in general in Eureka being the reason they have a problem with it.

I'm not strawmanning. Someone literally said that SE needs to communicate with us when they just did. You personally assumed that because they didn't explicitely said that "we will continue to monitor feedback and make appropriate changes" that they won't do it.
People are complaining after we just got good news and proof that they listen and react quickly.

[Keridwyn]

My first impressions of Eureka are that, with a few tweaks, it could be much better. Right now it just isn't worthwhile to grind on any mob that doesn't trigger an NM spawn because the NMs are the most worthwhile content. THOSE feel rewarding when they go down and (if the zerg is smaller) they have mechanics worth paying attention to. I do enjoy them.

I do not enjoy attempting to solo any portion of the content and I don't enjoy finding a party to punch random mobs in a corner. Neither of those feels rewarding in terms of crystal drops or XP. Fix that and you might just have yourself a solid bit of content SE.

[Vstarstruck]

> People complain about Eureka.
> SE communicate some easy changes they'll do three days only after release.
> People complain SE doesn't communicate, assume that SE won't do anything else and want EVERYTHING NOW.

Official forums checks out.

There are Fate trains in Eureka.
There are Hate trains in the forums.
Both are very similar in some aspects, if you think about it. Especially the "brainless zergrush" part.

Blind fandom checks out. That is what Eureka is, brainless zerg rush, there is no feeling of danger there is nothing to explore, you go in, find some NM, exit, find another because of the different instances and repeat. A tedious grind for outdated on release gear, too high of a time sink just for glams.

Yeah they are already doing changes, shows you how bad and how much oversight it had despite being the cause of lack of content 4.0 +. When you pull that much content being developed for 4.0 + you expect more from the object in development then what we got. Stop blaming players of over hype, SE development was the cause of it.

We where outright lied to
"Will not be like diadem"
*makes diadem 3.0*
"You will be able to solo"
*soloing is impossible*

[Fyce]

Blind fandom checks out. That is what Eureka is, brainless zerg rush, there is no feeling of danger there is nothing to explore, you go in, find some NM, exit, find another because of the different instances and repeat. A tedious grind for outdated on release gear, too high of a time sink just for glams.

Yeah they are already doing changes, shows you how bad and how much oversight it had despite being the cause of lack of content 4.0 +. When you pull that much content being devloped for 4.0 + you expect more from the object in development then what we got. Stop blaming players of over hype, SE development was the cause of it.

No matter what they say or do, you won't be happy.
Call me a fanboy if you want, but you clearly are a true hater yourself.

[Vstarstruck]

No matter what they say or do, you won't be happy.
Call me a fanboy if you want, but you clearly are a true hater yourself.

Did you just start playing after SB or something? You got any idea how much they pulled out of 4.0 + development for this? This does not show that kind of effort, at all. I am not a hater, I am simply not blind.

[Fyce]

Did you just start playing after SB or something? You got any idea how much they pulled out of 4.0 + development for this? This does not show that kind of effort, at all. I am not a hater, I am simply not blind.

For the second time, no matter what they do, you won't be happy. There's no point arguing with you.