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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    Okay folks... we like to talk about Eureka. That's cool. It's new. We have lots to say.

    We also like to complain that the devs never listen to us, as compared to Japanese players. Okay, that's a thing. There's a language barrier, maybe our feedback doesn't get passed on, etc.

    That said... we don't make it easy either. There is no need for us to split our feedback into 47 threads. We should make it easy for the devs to get our feedback by putting it all in as few places as possible. They should be able to say "I want Eureka feedback" and get directed to one thread that has all of it. The Japanese forum also happens to be significantly better at this, which is likely a factor in the perception that they get listened to more. They don't turn it into a hunt to find the best feedback thread.

    If we want to be heard, make it as easy as possible for someone looking for the message to find it.
    Compared to other issues, I actually think we did a decent job this time.
    Sure there are a few stragglers, but most of the replies are in the

    1) Impressions thread (which doesn't necessarily mean feedback as a lot of people bash without going into details on exactly what they don't like nor how to improve, but that's normal as it was an impression thread and not a feedback thread)
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...sion-of-Eureka

    2) Constructive Criticism thread (actual feedback):
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-no-negativity

    And there are a few other legitimate separate threads, like one on details on HOW to play, others regarding the data syncing bug, others are questions on things inside (like aggro works).

    We weren't perfect, but I think overall we did better than usual.
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  2. #12
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    It'd be nice if the mods made a sticky like they've done before with other major issues in the game like the server relocation.
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  3. #13
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    It's easy to say "Consolidate your feedback.", but we've been doing that for years in the PvP forum, and get an SE post once every 6 months if we're lucky.
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  4. #14
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    Jubii Io
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    Would be nice to keep some variety in the front pages of the forums. Not just eureka complaints all over.

    Could it be a thought process of "The more threads they see about this, the higher chance they'll actually do something about it"?
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    I think it has to do with SE's lack of response, so people feel they are not being listened to and simply trying to get heard. I guess the idea is, if enough threads are made, they will finally tell us something. The large number of threads, i am guessing is to show how many people are really displeased with Eureka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squintina View Post
    We weren't perfect, but I think overall we did better than usual.
    Are you serious? Just on the front page (counting this thread) there are 12 threads about Eureka. There's another 12 on page 2. Going further back, to page 3, there's another 7 or 8 threads. That's at least 31 thread about Eureka. That's far, far too many.

    I completely agree with Tridus. It's utterly ridiculous to continuously make new threads about the exact same subject as many other threads.
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  7. #17
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    It's the whole I know there are 57 threads on this but I feel that my thoughts are more important than other people's so I HAVE to make a 58th thread about it. Along with but the I DON'T WANT MY thoughts lost on page 96 of the mega thread thing. Then there is the I didn't bother to try to search to see if there is a thread about this. Although sometimes the search spits out threads that have nothing to do with what you want to discuss. That and the NA side of things at least seem to have a disliking to necro bumping things.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    I think it has to do with SE's lack of response, so people feel they are not being listened to and simply trying to get heard. I guess the idea is, if enough threads are made, they will finally tell us something. The large number of threads, i am guessing is to show how many people are really displeased with Eureka.
    See?
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4617145
    point proven
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    That said... we don't make it easy either. There is no need for us to split our feedback into 47 threads. We should make it easy for the devs to get our feedback by putting it all in as few places as possible. The Japanese forum also happens to be significantly better at this, which is likely a factor in the perception that they get listened to more. They don't turn it into a hunt to find the best feedback thread.
    The JP forum's mods also lock repeat threads, move them to the oldest/most popular threads, and leave a link in the locked thread to redirect people. :B
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    What's the difference between 10 threads with 100 pages or 1 with 1000. not like they all get read anyway
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