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    Can we please consolidate our feedback more?

    Okay folks... we like to talk about Eureka. That's cool. It's new. We have lots to say.

    We also like to complain that the devs never listen to us, as compared to Japanese players. Okay, that's a thing. There's a language barrier, maybe our feedback doesn't get passed on, etc.

    That said... we don't make it easy either. There is no need for us to split our feedback into 47 threads. We should make it easy for the devs to get our feedback by putting it all in as few places as possible. They should be able to say "I want Eureka feedback" and get directed to one thread that has all of it. The Japanese forum also happens to be significantly better at this, which is likely a factor in the perception that they get listened to more. They don't turn it into a hunt to find the best feedback thread.

    If we want to be heard, make it as easy as possible for someone looking for the message to find it.
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    Did this really need its own thread? Couldnt you have consolidated?
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    Look further down on the page, there is a feedback thread:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-no-negativity
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    I think it's down to how people generally don't read Most pages of threads. And then feel if they want there comment to be read it deserves its own topic where it's front page...

    If a thread is say 20 pages long a lot of people might read the first 2 or 3 pages then jump to the last 2.

    You often see it when someone basically brings up a question that has already been answered on page 12 or something for example
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    Last edited by Dzian; 03-16-2018 at 08:31 AM.

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    So, I have to disagree with this a bit. Individual discussions tend to get lost in a megathread.

    Of course if it's the same things over and over it can go in one thread. But threads covering different topics/aspects, I think those are fine and I don't want to see those consolidated.
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    I also don't expect a person to be expected to read 85+ pages of comments that may be several paragraphs long each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    I also don't expect a person to be expected to read 85+ pages of comments that may be several paragraphs long each.
    Maybe I'm just a forum purist, but that's kind of the point of a forum community, you catch up on the thread to join the discussion at hand.
    This is probably one of the only communities I've been in where people are vehemently opposed to doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    Okay folks... we like to talk about Eureka. That's cool. It's new. We have lots to say.

    We also like to complain that the devs never listen to us, as compared to Japanese players. Okay, that's a thing. There's a language barrier, maybe our feedback doesn't get passed on, etc.

    That said... we don't make it easy either. There is no need for us to split our feedback into 47 threads. We should make it easy for the devs to get our feedback by putting it all in as few places as possible. They should be able to say "I want Eureka feedback" and get directed to one thread that has all of it. The Japanese forum also happens to be significantly better at this, which is likely a factor in the perception that they get listened to more. They don't turn it into a hunt to find the best feedback thread.
    None is keeping you here. You can leave anytime tou want.

    Let us have fun.
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    With the intention of not trying to sound rude (which I hope this doesn't come across as), it's the community reps that shuffle through these and pass it on to Yoshi-P and team. However, that community rep for the NA/EU community has been next to non-existent since Camate and whoever else left, hence why they may not be hearing our feedback, both good and bad.

    Although, yeah I do agree that 47+ threads of the same thing can be an annoyance, in this case, it'll probably show them that this content isn't being well received by a large percentage of their audience since it's a hot topic on the forums. And in which they'll probably take and either combine them all or go with the most reliable and useful thread and take it from there. Again, that's assuming that there's a community rep there to speak on our behalf.
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    I typically ignore duplicate threads. If less people comment on new threads covering a topic another has already begun then it'll be less of an issue. Furthermore, people tend to reply in those duplicate threads with more or less duplicate opinions they posted in a previous thread. Sure it gets cramped but it is still more or less the same feedback.
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