SE You may want to reconsider charging for this

[irongripz]

I don't want to debate anything. How is me re-stating what Yoshi-P said my opinion? He said it is about 50% where he wants it to eventually go (2.0) but he also said after the player search and AH comes in 1.20 it will be a game that is worthy of being paid for. His words, not mine. The only part that is my opinion is the fact that I agree with him.

did he say that would change the 50%? no he just sayed he gona make suckers pay. thats your opinion that after those its 100% just like it would be yoshis opinion also. see how that works?

[irongripz]

gettin exp faster will kill the game more like right now i max on most job even craft i only log on to chat and log off since ifrit bore me with 4/430 drop. the 2 pty i do with have ppl 7/7 leaving me behind it like a curse

thats how it will be for anyone playing from now to 2.0 the game will not draw any new players. hell almost every major dep store has takin it off the shelf. lack of content will be a issue till the easymode lvling, and lack of content is fixed. after a year its almost to late for that.

[irongripz]

i myself gotta not pay and take a break after going 4/430 run with ifrit drop and bore of ifrit even so i havent gotta the weapon i want out of 430 run i think i done with this game. nothing esl to do all job DoW DoM DoL DoH max 50 so yea the exp bonus was bad idea now i max and bore nothing to do

yep i bet you see alot of this. this is why most betas wipe chars at end to make up for fuck ups like letting people afk to 50 on all classes.

[jwang]

With open beta for SW: TOR finished, I'm going to have to agree with the OP that SE is going to have to reconsider on charging. It's everything XIV wishes it was in terms of playability, and outside of the KOTOR era graphics, is something that I predict will give WoW a run for its money. People would be looking between XIV and SW: TOR, and question themselves on why they are playing a half-finished game and paying for it when they could do the same with a fully functional one. Add to the fact that it already has a rather large fan base to draw subscribers from just for the first month, along with the die-hards that will stick with it even after the honeymoon phase, and you will be facing quite the competition.

Most people aren't willing to pay for more than 1 MMO, since playing one takes up a lot of time. To make matters worse, the release of TOR is Dec. 20th, 15th for those who preordered, and comes with 30 days of free playtime. I expect to see a heavy dip in American and European players in December and January at the very least, and a very high chance of players not returning once they quit. The best incentive that XIV has right now is "It's free" and "It's prettier than anything else on the market". Unfortunately, these qualities are only skin deep, so once one of these goes away I'm predicting there would be an exodus for other MMOs. I myself am debating heavily on whether or not to continue my subscription.

[irongripz]

i unlike most of you arguing that game is good and ready to be sold, i am going to wait save me some classes to lvl so i can have fun after 2.0 so i don't miss all of the content that is not here. personaly don't find it fun to faceroll every part of this game.

[Platinumstorm]

Regardless, if your goal is to create a positive aura going into 2.0, then starting to charge people in the middle of a broken job/class system migration is the wrong approach, although it is in step with other historically questionable decisions you have made as a corporation.

I made this argument as well, and then shortly joined the "compromise", but I have jumped off the compromise train because every time I log in I realize I have nothing to do, my carpenter economy is broken, and I can get enjoyment from other areas.

I can't imagine subscribing to this upcoming patch, and I'm baffled that Square is going to be charging.

[TheVedis]

i unlike most of you arguing that game is good and ready to be sold, i am going to wait save me some classes to lvl so i can have fun after 2.0 so i don't miss all of the content that is not here. personaly don't find it fun to faceroll every part of this game.

thats fine
you do that

but dont come in here and tell us how your right and we are wrong and we are idiots, which is exactly what you are doing

grow up

[irongripz]

With open beta for SW: TOR finished, I'm going to have to agree with the OP that SE is going to have to reconsider on charging. It's everything XIV wishes it was in terms of playability, and outside of the KOTOR era graphics, is something that I predict will give WoW a run for its money. People would be looking between XIV and SW: TOR, and question themselves on why they are playing a half-finished game and paying for it when they could do the same with a fully functional one. Add to the fact that it already has a rather large fan base to draw subscribers from just for the first month, along with the die-hards that will stick with it even after the honeymoon phase, and you will be facing quite the competition.

Most people aren't willing to pay for more than 1 MMO, since playing one takes up a lot of time. To make matters worse, the release of TOR is Dec. 20th, 15th for those who preordered, and comes with 30 days of free playtime. I expect to see a heavy dip in American and European players in December and January at the very least, and a very high chance of players not returning once they quit. The best incentive that XIV has right now is "It's free" and "It's prettier than anything else on the market". Unfortunately, these qualities are only skin deep, so once one of these goes away I'm predicting there would be an exodus for other MMOs. I myself am debating heavily on whether or not to continue my subscription.

i agree with everything except the paying for only 1 mmo. i actualy pay for 3 different mmos and i play them at different times depending on witch friends are not working. i have no issue wit paying for a mmo, i have a issue paying for a half assed crappy mmo.

[XxOstiaxX]

Off course not, but if you see it that way, Microsoft could just make XboxLive free. They do not need the money either. Hell they could even hand over free X360 to everyone or at least halve the MSRP because... they do not need the money.

It's not because you earn money from other projects/activities that a company doesn't "need" money.

Even if you aren't in the red, money can help you to expand and more importantly, to stay competitive. So you may see it as "money isn't needed", but money's always needed.

If tomorrow XIII-2 is a complete failure and if future Eidos title aren't successful as well (Hitman Absolution, etc.), then money will be needed.

Comparing xbox live with FFXIV going P2P is pretty dumb, Xbox lives owns Playstation network in every single way, shape and form, by a margin of 50000%, why would they not charge ? They have the best product in the market, now FFXIV is one if not the worst Triple A MMO out there right now. The comparison is just stupid :/

And as far as FFXIII, i dont think it will sell as good as the original, but it will still sell, it is a FF tittle, and Se will never need money, thats why they keep remaking their older games 10 times a decade, just check FFIV, it has around 5-6 remakes :/

[irongripz]

thats fine
you do that

but dont come in here and tell us how your right and we are wrong and we are idiots, which is exactly what you are doing

grow up

i am right your not wrong just an idiot.