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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Kill monster, earn exp, level up. FATEs give more experience. There is nothing new about this.
    The main difference are the elements, and that in order to level up "fast" you have to fight harder mobs, instead of spamming low levels.

    Like any other map at a low level? Also PotD. Where I'd argue that dying at level 189 is actually much more painful than even 25% of a level.
    Maps at low level are designed progressively, so you won't encounter many high-level mobs on a level 1-5 zone that will one.shot you.
    PotD is a different system, but yeah, it's a good example; in PotD you had to be aware of your surroundings as well.

    After how many months in development and delays? I'm not saying they should've given us access to ALL of it off the bat, but it should've felt at the very least just that - complete.
    Well that's the main problem I have with Eureka as I said. It feels incomplete, and they should have added something else, like other ways to get crystals (gathering? dailies? I don't know, just another option).

    ...but.... you literally are..........
    I guess having to pop them by killing X mobs, it makes it funnier than just going to X place and kill stuff when it randomly pops like FATEs do.


    You're heavily outnumbered here.
    That's why we need more good feedback instead of the usual trolls/quitters. We should let them know what's good and what's bad about Eureka, and respect other's opinions as well.

    That depends on what an 'improved' Eureka would be. And as said before, after so long, it should've been much more improved already.
    I don't know how they can improve Eureka. Maybe adding more options would help. Leave the mob grinding and NM grinding to people who wants to get it faster, and put dailies, gathering spots, different quests for people who wants to solo/take it easy at their own pace. That's what I would change :/



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    Quote Originally Posted by KyokuhoKensaki View Post
    Oh you don't know huh? You don't. Know. Well clearly everything that's been said is invalidated with you trying to shoot down or deny what everyone else has said.
    I said:

    I don't know how they can improve Eureka. Maybe adding more options would help. Leave the mob grinding and NM grinding to people who wants to get it faster, and put dailies, gathering spots, different quests for people who wants to solo/take it easy at their own pace. That's what I would change :/
    You literally ignored the rest of my post.

    We already knew you were a Troll, but now you just confirmed it. Also, it's quite pathetic that almost all of your messages on this forum are direct attacks against me. Try harder next time.
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    Last edited by ChocoFeru; 03-15-2018 at 10:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
    I don't know how they can improve Eureka. Maybe adding more options would help. Leave the mob grinding and NM grinding to people who wants to get it faster, and put dailies, gathering spots, different quests for people who wants to solo/take it easy at their own pace. That's what I would change :/
    Oh you don't know huh? You don't. Know. Well clearly everything that's been said is invalidated with you trying to shoot down or deny what everyone else has said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
    Maps at low level are designed progressively, so you won't encounter many high-level mobs on a level 1-5 zone that will one.shot you.
    Only Eureka is built like that too. Farther away from camp, the higher level the enemies, while after a while the lower level enemies (2+ under you iirc) start ignoring you. The only thing that's different from how it is outside is that your cap is 20 instead of 70. But it's literally the same system. I can't even agree about the elemental wheel being different because it's equivalent to materia or higher level gear. Assuming people actually change the wheel to boost their offense and defense right, that's it, that's all it does, it's a stat boost. Think melding your materia for Savage progression vs. farming, it's still nothing but a flat stat boost that is really not innovative in the least. I can't even credit its 'cooldown' because if you're doing it right, you'll be farming the same enemies in the same area for a while. Even if an NM shows up, chances your cooldown is full are pretty high so you can safely switch elementals for it (assuming you need to) and then back to wherever it was you were grinding before.
    Absolutely nothing we haven't seen before.

    I guess having to pop them by killing X mobs, it makes it funnier than just going to X place and kill stuff when it randomly pops like FATEs do.
    No, it's all FATEs. It's a FATE chain where the first one is the mobs FATE, and upon successful completion of that, the boss FATE spawns. If you're attacking any enemy outside of the mob FATE you're in many ways doing it wrong, leaving you with the FATE grind. There's a reason people say it's FATE grind in all but name because that's what it is.

    That's why we need more good feedback instead of the usual trolls/quitters.
    1. People saying they hate it enough to cancel their subscription about it is prime feedback. You like the mode and want to see it flourish but other people couldn't care less about it. That is also valid feedback and one the devs should hear regardless of your stance on the matter.
    2. There IS. There's literally an entire thread about "please give constructive criticism and leave the salt out", but even in this thread there's more than enough suggestions and detailed complaints about what's being done wrong and how it can be fixed.

    respect other's opinions as well.
    Said the person who said if you're a hater it's only because it's a meme? Your earlier posts in this thread have not aged well, my friend.

    I don't know how they can improve Eureka.
    Thankfully, many people who hate Eureka had a lot of excellent ideas and they posted them both here and in the other thread. Maybe you could've come up with something if you weren't so busy tearing into people over misunderstanding them.
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 03-15-2018 at 10:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
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    I said:



    You literally ignored the rest of my post.

    We already knew you were a Troll, but now you just confirmed it. Also, it's quite pathetic that almost all of your messages on this forum are direct attacks against me. Try harder next time.
    Good to know not agreeing with you and calling you out on things equals troll. Guess that makes everyone who isn't 100% on your side a troll >-> Also who is this We business? Pretty sure the only one saying that is you. Also so? Big deal almost all of my messages have been this thread. This is a topic that needs to be talked about.
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    Last edited by KyokuhoKensaki; 03-15-2018 at 11:18 PM.