the idea that ppl are leaving to play skyrim or SWTOR because SE are going to charge is very mis-guided, ppl have gone to play them games because they want to play them, and would be going to play them even if this was F2P, (oh wait it is free to play and these games have drawn a crowd) i guess what i'm saying is the ppl that want to play FF14 are going to stay no matter what comes out, and charging us is neither here nor there