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    Please link to me any article where Yoshi-P states its MS fault and unwillingness to cross-platform. I know Gold is a requirement for every online game (minus free ones). That has nothing to do with cross-play and everything to do with maintaining a strict structure on the games requiring Xbox Live Gold. FFXI worked with Xbox, and they made an exception to the Xbox Live Gold rule specifically for that title, but they adamantly refused to do it for Xbox One and any game going forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juxtapose View Post
    Please link to me any article where Yoshi-P states its MS fault and unwillingness to cross-platform. I know Gold is a requirement for every online game (minus free ones). That has nothing to do with cross-play and everything to do with maintaining a strict structure on the games requiring Xbox Live Gold. FFXI worked with Xbox, and they made an exception to the Xbox Live Gold rule specifically for that title, but they adamantly refused to do it for Xbox One and any game going forward.
    http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/...60-or-xbox-one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Again, that article seems to be specifically referencing the Xbox Live Gold requirement on having a paid subscription to access ANY online functions. I do not believe it's referencing MS's unwillingness to have games cross-platform.

    I agree, the GOLD requirement sucks, but it makes sense. If they make an exception for FFXIV, what's to stop every other developer to question this exception or ask for the exception for their game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juxtapose View Post
    Again, that article seems to be specifically referencing the Xbox Live Gold requirement on having a paid subscription to access ANY online functions. I do not believe it's referencing MS's unwillingness to have games cross-platform.

    I agree, the GOLD requirement sucks, but it makes sense. If they make an exception for FFXIV, what's to stop every other developer to question this exception or ask for the exception for their game.
    Before ESO was released it was announced that you wouldn't need Gold to play online. Can't find that article anymore
    But even if that was still a roadblock, gold is a lot different from how it was on 360... if one profile is gold, anyone who plays on the Xbox is gold. So for example. my whole family is gold, but we only pay for my one profile.

    I still feel it shouldn't require gold what so ever, but I don't think that's the issue anymore. Would love this game to come to xbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juxtapose View Post
    Again, that article seems to be specifically referencing the Xbox Live Gold requirement on having a paid subscription to access ANY online functions. I do not believe it's referencing MS's unwillingness to have games cross-platform.

    I agree, the GOLD requirement sucks, but it makes sense. If they make an exception for FFXIV, what's to stop every other developer to question this exception or ask for the exception for their game.
    Microsoft used to require a GOLD requirement to watch Netflix. Let's just say that Microsoft has not learned it's lesson here about how the Xbox Live Gold requirements actually push casual people away from the platform, and all MMO's. Final Fantasy XI/XIV are not the first games to look into it, and to give one example, Mabinogi was "already done" for the 360 way back in 2007 or 2008, and then it was not shipped because of these requirements. Once the hard drive died on my Xbox 360S and I couldn't find another one, I've shunned the Xbox platform. It's just not worth buying Microsoft hardware, they consistently do things that saddle the user with extra costs for no benefit other than milking the user for extra money on accessories (hello echos of SEGA.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juxtapose View Post
    I agree, the GOLD requirement sucks, but it makes sense. If they make an exception for FFXIV, what's to stop every other developer to question this exception or ask for the exception for their game.
    Sony doesn't require PSN+ for FFXIV and have set clear boundaries about it. "Are your game servers hosted on PSN? No? Ok, we'll waive PSN+ for you." - that's clear boundaries so devs don't question it. What's to stop Microsoft doing the same thing? Because in essence that's all that's needed. Square Enix won't host the FFXIV servers on Xbox Live servers. So why does it need Xbox Live? And Microsoft can pull a PR stunt here to stop the questioning and say "Due to Sony's success, we have decided to adopt their system for Xbox Live Gold. If you only use Xbox Live for the oauth flow, we will waive the Xbox Live Gold requirement". There we go, it doesn't look like a dev is responsible, and other devs won't question it as much.
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    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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