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  1. #301
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    Xizzy Azenith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    This forum has long been riddled with addle-brained NEETs pining for FF11 style hellgrinds.
    In ffxi atleast you had to react to defense buffs with dispel, stun big damage moves, keep up slow/paralyze/blind, erase debuffs, etc etc.

    XI atleast you had to react to things with answers. The way trash mobs are designed and how debuffs are designed in this game makes trash mobs boring. They've always been boring. Chimera is the closest monster to being kinda interesting as trash if it's threatening (potd)

    Please have atleast some insight.
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  2. #302
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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical-Limit View Post
    In ffxi atleast you had to react to defense buffs with dispel, stun big damage moves, keep up slow/paralyze/blind, erase debuffs, etc etc.

    XI atleast you had to react to things with answers. The way trash mobs are designed and how debuffs are designed in this game makes trash mobs boring. They've always been boring. Chimera is the closest monster to being kinda interesting as trash if it's threatening (potd)

    Please have atleast some insight.
    Here is my insight. I don't know when you played FF11 but I played it from Zilart to just after CoP and Ff11 was never anything that even remotely approached fun but I was an addle-brained NEET so I stuck with it anyway. The implication that trash fights in 11 were somehow more interesting than the ones in FF14 is ludicrous. They're both terrible, and trash is terrible in literally every game. The only purpose it serves is to control pacing. But in Eureka there's basically nothing to pace to, it's just trash for hours with the occasional NM.
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  3. #303
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerad3993 View Post
    Nonsense to you. I’ll say what I please thanks.

    Edit: to further my supposed “nonsense”, people after 3-5 hours barely got a few LEVELS. You’re assuming not ONLY leveling to 20 in those 100 hours, but also getting 4K protean crystals? That’s not happening unless you’re a botter, and even then, you wouldn’t accumulate it in 4.5 days SOLO.
    I got to level 4 in under 2 hours solo, its not that bad lol
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  4. #304
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I got to level 4 in under 2 hours solo, its not that bad lol
    That’s cool, and fine. The point “was” it will not be completable faster than Atma in 2.X.
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  5. #305
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerad3993 View Post
    That’s cool, and fine. The point “was” it will not be completable faster than Atma in 2.X.
    It took many people months to get even 1 atma from a zone. I was lucky and had them all within 48 hours. Anima books could take ages due to fate spawns.

    If you didn't do atma at release, you have no idea.
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  6. #306
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    It took many people months to get even 1 atma from a zone. I was lucky and had them all within 48 hours. Anima books could take ages due to fate spawns.

    If you didn't do atma at release, you have no idea.
    I did, at release. Twice, on warrior AND Monk. It took me roughly 100 hours for both. Months is an over exaggeration lmao.
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  7. #307
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    Seems I'll ignore it till the typical relic nerfs
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  8. #308
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    Here is my insight. I don't know when you played FF11 but I played it from Zilart to just after CoP and Ff11 was never anything that even remotely approached fun but I was an addle-brained NEET so I stuck with it anyway. The implication that trash fights in 11 were somehow more interesting than the ones in FF14 is ludicrous. They're both terrible, and trash is terrible in literally every game. The only purpose it serves is to control pacing. But in Eureka there's basically nothing to pace to, it's just trash for hours with the occasional NM.
    There was no insight in this post, just opinions. You didn't even try to argue any points. I proved that XI trash is more thought provoking than dodge the yellow light of ffxiv.

    So stop comparing this content to FFXI. It only has some bare bones of it, but the meat fat and brain everything is different. Judge it as itself which is 14 diadem. This is closer to diablo than ffxi
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  9. #309
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    Celes Victoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I like it, there seems to be a foreshadowing of more to come when I get to higher levels. For once we have a piece of content that doesn't hand hold, and makes you work for your reward.
    I have read a lot of your comments and you seem to be the only on offering anything other its boring blah blah blah. I read what the the instance was going to be weeks ago and it seems to be exactly hiw it was described. Its challenging and its something that has been lacking in 14 for awhile. I do scratch my head at the iLl sync though. Seems odd why not just make it to the difficulty of the current iLv? Meh I can't wait to go with so e friends and explore.
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  10. #310
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Cerberus
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    First impression?

    Idiotic and uninspired. I doubt that I'll ever reach 20.
    Kill XP is horrible, leveling takes foreeever and FATEs well we've seen 2 in 2 hours. Wee.

    Good for me that the rewards are totally outdated, even as a non raiding casual the item level makes me "WTF all that work for inferior gear?!".
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