What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Alleo]

Will say this, i do not want em to "ignore" the forums. But i hope they pay attention to actual participation.

If the whole amount of different forums (even the japenese one) are mostly negative about it, it might just be a big hint about how "great" it is. Also actual participation is a bit of a problem because they put the relic behind it. Who knows how many people dislike it but continue to do that just for the relic or other items. This would also give them a wrong signal. Also the forum is not always wrong. PoTD was kinda well-liked here and seen as success, yet Diadem 1.0 and 2.0 were seen as flops and this was also shown ingame with it being death quite fast.

The problem with the on the side way of gearing up is ,that this is for a worse weapon/gear set and you need a HUGE amount of time for that. This is not the way for casual players to get their gear, this is for people with a big amount of time (and no I am not saying this in a bad way). At least with older relic weapons you could do a diverse amount of content or at least level up other jobs. Here you can do nothing else but Eureka and you cant even level up other stuff.

[Sindele]

So, XP loss on release is nearly 10%. Might be higher, I'm not sure, considering it dropped me all the way to L6 0%. Fun! At least it's on release and not death, I guess.

[Gumbercules]

On the leveling up thing, i could see that as a caveat. That said it prolly wont happen anytime soon, if ever, since there is a new deep dungeon planned. Honestly i am just worried that they boost xp all willy nilly, then make the hobo zerg the actual fastest XP/hour. I personally found it great seeing our first 100xp/mob kill and seeing the xp bar chug along nicely once we found our camps The zerg is "ok" up to like lvl 3 but after that your party needs to branch out, and i like that. Also want to see how the crystal droprates change as the mobs you kill are higher level. Ppl are trying to get the reward way way before the "content" and i think that might be part of the issue. if level 1 farming was the absolute best way to get crystals why would there be "leveling" in there?

[Usho]

Would hate to see this go the way of "steps of faith" because of the initial backlash from what might just be the vocal minority.

Judging from the fierce backlash on here, reddit and even gamefaqs...YOU might be the vocal minority. Just saiyan. I waited just like everyone else to see if Eureka was worth the NUMEROUS delays and...what a shock...it wasn't. AND there are BUGS they didn't bother to fix before releasing it which is a not a good sign.

[Squintina]

I would say the Japanese forums are a bit more mixed. They have more people that will like parts of it.

But it's definitely still a net negative.

German thread seems fairly negative as well.

Can't find a thread in French forums for it.

[Gumbercules]

Judging from the fierce backlash on here, reddit and even gamefaqs...YOU might be the vocal minority. Just saiyan. I waited just like everyone else to see if Eureka was worth the NUMEROUS delays and...what a shock...it wasn't. AND there are BUGS they didn't bother to fix before releasing it which is a not a good sign.

Hence why i said "might be" I also did 2 Eureka instances and those were actively populated so i could strawman that to mean "since they were full and people were participating, everyone is enjoying eureka" My point ultimately is, they need to be very careful to tweaks. People just want the "stuff" without participating atm imo.

[Enjuden]

Cut the grind by 1/2, bare minimum, and I'll begin to consider liking it. There's no way this should take three months just to complete when having tons of time to spare.

[Usho]

People just want the "stuff" without participating atm imo.

Everyone knew or speculated this was gonna be a grind before the patch. You AREN't gonna get the "stuff" right away. Goes without saying for relics. Not sure where you're drawing that conclusion dude. Knowing se, nerfs will probably come sooner or later. It's been done with Diadem.

[Gumbercules]

Will see what the people that start to hit 20 say about the crystal/hour gains too. Hopefully once they start to give their data, we start to get a better "picture" of the amount of grinding we might expect in the long run.

[hqdm]

I'm enjoying Eureka in the sense that it feel like old grinder mmo I quite enjoy.
But it is quite flawed because current design penalizes the players too much in both lvl penalty and xp reward such that it splits an already dwindling playerbase based on lvl penalty.

The XP req seem quite high but only when u are not killing optimal mob for your lvl.
This is mob +5 lvls over you (+6 good xp, but dmg penalty...).
As lvl 5, you really have no choice in that.. partying with people 1-2 lvls lower than you result in complete crap xp. Lvl 7 mobs +2 gave me 14xp for a kill.
Now that I'm L6 it's even harder to find a party - join up with L5 to kill L10 mob and receive a pittance of the xp you would get if killing L11.
It's something like 75 xp L10 vs 150 XP L11 in an 8man.

This set the requirement to group strictly +5 over your lvl else you're wasting your own time really.
Damage penalty for seeking higher level mob restrict this entirely. 200 dmg to +7 mob? If you want to restrict the possibility of powerleveling, then why make the kill window so small??
It's stupid af.

I cant imagine many player will stick this out until L10, much less L15, L20 so I mean, even if the penalties were lessened by 2-3 lvls it would greatly aid finding group, but as it is it's simply going to kill the "content" before it gets out of the gate.

The crystal reqs seem kinda high but maybe it's just because we're still relatively low level.
I've gotten 60 by L6, and 3 of the anemos ones from a NM.
NM spawnrate way too low. only seen 2 so far in ~9h?

Idm grindfest but restricting who I can party with and how to gain xp in the way that it currently is, is frankly dumber than a sack of lalas.