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    Aviars Lightsworn
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
    You do know there are people in that ranking that can’t even win 50% of their matches, right??? You keep talking about skill as if it is an ultimate decider and it is not. Yes, a skilled person can get there are stay there easier, but there is nothing that keeps decently skilled people off the leaderboard. Even the other people in the top 100 say it isn’t much of a test of skill!
    Win-rate doesn't mean anything. I have already explained this numerous times in this thread. A 50% winrate in say gold tier does not mean that person is suddenly doing as well as a person with a 50% winrate in diamond. Who do you think is having harder matches? Obviously the diamond player. Square probably see's your type of shallow reasoning a lot which is why they removed win-rates from the leader board.

    To make it even more generic, does a kindergardener who gets a A+ suddenly a smarter person than a person in college who gets a B? Absouletely not.

    Also lets say a player hits 2500 rating and that is as high as they can go. At that point they are basically winning one game and losing 1 game. The more games they play will LOWER their winrate and they will stay at 2500 rating. does it mean they do not deserve their 2500 rating compared to someone else? No it doesn't.

    People who play a lot of games as well, generally get better. They could've had a horrible win rate from the beginning from when they were a worse player, but playing more allowed them to get better at the game and climb. That can translate to a low win-rate that follows high ranked players throughout the whole season.

    I can come up with many reasons why a high ranked player would have a low winrate. But generally win-rate doesn't matter. The high ranked you get the harder it is to win and therefore gain points. It's just a simple fact

    I hope this made sense to you.

    Also, people who say top 100 is easy are speaking for themselves. It may not be hard FOR THEM. They are good enough because it is easy FOR THEM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
    The part you left out was that none of the mounts already on offer were specifically requested by the 'casual' playerbase. Or if there was a thread started requesting warhorses I missed it. The hellhounds though, a lot of people who never PvPed in their life wanted those and the new mount...well that's a story NPC who has fans that don't pvp at all. And honestly how does that mount even remotely fit with the theme? Also those rewards by themselves DO NOT offer a competitive aspect. The competitive aspect is the nature of PvP itself with the rewards merely being the atta boy for top placement.
    Does it matter? FF14 players ask and want everything. It honestly doesn't matter. You need to stop feeling entitled to something just because you "asked" for it. That is such shallow reasoning.

    Just because you say it doesn't add a competitive aspect doesn't make it true. Competitions offer prizes and rewards as a reason to play your absolute best. If compeitions didn't offer prizes then you would obviously see quality drop. It is just fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
    Not a day goes by that I don't see some of the really invested PvPers asking when the botting and blatent win-trading will be fixed. So how many of those top 100 player did actually get their mounts free? While the majority likely earned it through hard work and effort you cannot deny a portion of them did not, the evidence is on Youtube, Twitter, and Reddit. The legitimate ones, those folks should be recognized 100% somehow, but when you can bot your way to rewards then it has already devalued them more than any amount of people getting them through grindy works.
    Bots don't perform well enough to get to the top 100, stop trying to act like it does. It is a blatant lie.

    Also win-traders have been banned. And as much as people who don't pvp would like you to believe, wintraders are not so common as to be a extreme problem. I can literally count legitimate win-traders on one hand. Take this from someone who has played since season 1.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
    Also, Wolf Marks? Seriously. No. Not unless they allow us to hold millions of them. Or unless they add a second currency item to buy with the marks at 20k marks a pop and the mounts take something like 1k each of them. The mounts should be work.
    Grinding achievements or anything else shouldn't have access to the same rewards that people who got top 100 get. Plain and simple. It's top 100 or nothing. It should require the same effort and skill period.
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    Last edited by Aviars; 03-13-2018 at 02:57 AM.