Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Kakiko]

On the subject of Esuna:

Are healers just not slotting this anymore? I can't count how many times in Byakko Ex and Fractal HM (just two off the top of my head) where I get hit with paralysis because I either didn't do the lightning mechanic correctly (in Byakko Ex) because I'm not that great at it (100% my fault, I agree), or because I was just a little too far away from the mob that does the lightning donut attack in Fractal (second pack of trash, I think, after the first jump?) and the healers just don't Esuna it. Those are Esunable things, and yet in Byakko, of the 30+ clears I have, I can count on one hand how many runs I've had where healers actually Esuna that; not just off of me I should mention but others as well. I've actually asked for healers in Byakko to slot it, and was told once "it's fine, it doesn't last long." No, maybe not, but it means getting to your stack marker is much harder. Also means interrupted casts and potentially dropping Enochian for BLMs.

[NephthysVasudan]

<esuna issue?>

I've only heard one....valid argument for not having esuna - "Some dungeons don't need it"
But it comes off as a cop out.


Pro's : Esuna is FAST.....near instant - very short cast time. Esuna is CHEAP....not much mana to burn on it. Esuna is a short term investment that pays off big time as it means healing LESS as a result....or keeping people from getting killed - Like Leviathan hitting you with heavy and the boat tilts (when it can be esuna'd with plenty of time to spare). Been killed thanks to that.
Con: It takes 1 Role slot.

I always keep Esuna within reach - even if I don't use it..I find it's a godsend in my healing tools.
Schollar is the exception to this...I get that....but for crying out loud....people who don't have Esuna slotted...and don't use it? Don't you dare tell me your a "competent healer" - your gambling on my life as DPS/Tank....I don't like that. :P

We should never have to ask for it...seriously...its stupid. It's like DPS not slotting Limit Break....you just don't do that lol.

Heck as a Red Mage I started using Erase on anything that deals damage over time! Because I do not see Esuna being used! UGH.

[ExKage]

Truth be told - the number of healers who flat out refuse to use Esuna is horrifyingly stupid. - But even I know the difference between what can be Esuna'd and what can't be.

There's now even a handy dandy little difference in icons to let us know if it can be!

On the subject of Esuna:

Are healers just not slotting this anymore?

Probably not slotting it because of the avoidable mechanics. Same reason some will move protect out once the run has started.

[WilhelmWhite]

Tfw healers don't Esuna Doom....




Jokes aside, I usually Esuna debuffs as soon as they appear. Even if it's just a burn debuff, I try to get it immediately.

[Skivvy]

Tfw healers don't Esuna Doom....




Jokes aside, I usually Esuna debuffs as soon as they appear. Even if it's just a burn debuff, I try to get it immediately.

I love me some Esuna too. Also, I feel that it should go back to being a normal job skill as it was before. Each healer already had their own version - they could have just made them all attainable at the same level instead of slapping them into the role skills. ._.

Also, sorry for continuing the derail! I've been running minimal content this week, so I have no stories. D:

[JohnnyDevo]

regarding esuna, I'll take it by default for dungeon and pug runs, but it's the first to go in several situations.

1) If my protect macro is interrupted by someone prematurely pulling, protect replaces esuna as the least valuable part of my kit.
2) Other than esuna, every single role action, except break, can be pretty useful. In fact, I've seen high tier healers take break just to deal some damage without mana while solo healing. Because slots are at such a premium and esuna is only useful in some encounters when the party messes up, esuna is often easily replaced. Even rescue can be useful to help a paladin that just got knocked back by double punch keep his uptime.

I do understand why people refuse to take it, but in pug runs I guess I'd say I'd much rather have the "bail out the idiot" button be esuna rather than rescue.

[VanilleFang]

I don't have Esuna set automatically. I only set it if I know it will be required, otherwise it would be a waste of a slot. WHM already has a low number of spells/abilities, and some of those are already useless (Repose, Fluid Aura) so I want to always make the most out of my Role Actions.

[HyoMinPark]

On the subject of Esuna:

There are issues out there with healers not taking Esuna if the fight doesn’t require it for life-threatening debuffs, or if it’s something where you have two healers, then you have both just assuming the other have it, thereby both don’t slot it, and then you end up with an Esuna conundrum.

Personally, I always take it, but I have forgotten it on occasions after healing something where I took another role action instead (such as Surecast). I was awful when I was learning V4S on my healers for forgetting that I removed Esuna in favor of Surecast, and then forgetting to retake it. :x

Honestly, the best thing SE can do, is make Protect just a passive trait obtained inside of duties, and remove the skill entirely from the game (so that frees up 1 slot), and give each healer their specific Esuna back (can even make SCH’s level 30 instead of level 40). That way you have freed up 2 slots with actions that should not be role actions. As it is right now, there are too many “must have’s” in the healer role actions, and it doesn’t really allow for the “freedom of choice” that role actions are supposed to bring—because you typically want Swiftcast, Lucid Dreaming, Protect, and Esuna in your healer kit, and that only leaves you one other choice for role skills unless you choose to macro-out Protect...but I have seen people get salty if they die and you don’t recast Protect on them immediately afterwards, which you can’t do if you macro it out for another skill, such as Cleric Stance or weaker Divine Seal Largesse “Large Geese”.

[VanilleFang]

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Completely agree about Esuna and Protect. I've stated multiple times that Protect should just go away. I use it at the start of a dungeon and then change it out. I recast it if the tank dies, but otherwise I don't usually bother.

I always have Swiftcast and Lucid Dreaming like you mentions, and then I like to have Large Geese just for an extra oomph to my heals (read: Regen) so I can DPS a little more. >_>

[WilhelmWhite]

Lmao "Large Geese". I've been pronouncing it "Lar-guess" for quite a while now, but I can't unhear large geese xD