Dark Knight under review: Feedback to the Developers and Community Team

[Rufalus]

I feel like they should give it a nice buff at the risk of making it a bit overpowered. You could argue that pld/war are both overpowered already. Up the potency on Bloodspiller, up the HP restore on Souleater and yes keep the HP restore when Grit is not in effect.

[Booden]

Something I want back from HW are the many ogcds buttons you had that weren't Dark Arts. DRK was such an interactive and reactive class back then, but now PLD has become that in SB.

Remove the Dark Passenger mana cost and either buff its damage or let it keep its DA property. Add some kind of additional property like, I dunno, HP Leech? WAR has steel cyclone, so it's not like it'd be OP. Or maybe a 15% damage debuff to make up for DRK's small amount of defensive cooldowns and his lack of raidwide mitigation tool like divine veil and shake it off. Increase its cooldown to 60 secs to balance it out and make it stack with reprisal or something.

Make Quietus an OGCD that costs 50 blood gauge. "But that'd make drk too strong in dungeons!" Probably still wouldn't be as strong as WAR's current aoe rotation.

Make Delirium the old inner release, cuts blood gauge costs in half. And sync Blood Weapon/Price and Delirium's cooldown times and voila, drk now has a burst window.

Make Bloodspiller an alternative of Soul Eater off Syphon Strike that costs no blood gauge but doesn't build up any either. Now you have an interesting rotation and an interesting way to manage blood gauge.

Make Soul Eater heal available outside of grit (if WARs can have storm's path, why not DRKs?)

About Sole Survivor, how about making it the equivalent of Equilibrium heal but as a Heal over Time instead? Could even work as a low potency hp leech to give DRK a new offensive ogcd, just make it a 90 seconds cooldown. Fits the tank's personality, makes an useless button useful, adds much needed self sustain.

Just outright remove Dark Arts buff on Syphon Strike and Bloodspiller, we don't need to press dark arts every bloody gcd.

Then balance the potencies to make him do a lil bit more dps than pld but a lil less than WAR.

So many ways you could make a boring class fun,

[Bec]

I like your ideas but what would blood even do in single target then if Bloodspiller had no blood cost? Perhaps you could make Dark Passenger a single target offgcd that costs blood, similar to SAM's shinten? And you'd spam this in delirium/unbuffed burst windows.

[Satarn]

You can if a good healer saves you. But a parser won't tell you that you're being carried by your healer.

Actually it will. It's called "damage taken" and "healing done".

[Reynhart]

Actually it will. It's called "damage taken" and "healing done".

I'm pretty sure people won't care when they decide to kick those who don't "do enough DPS" for their taste.
Or they will simply kick the healer who is struggling to keep you alive because his DPS is too low, like Arkfrost witnessed in his static.

[Aniya_Estlihn]

I'm pretty sure people won't care when they decide to kick those who don't "do enough DPS" for their taste.
Or they will simply kick the healer who is struggling to keep you alive because his DPS is too low, like Arkfrost witnessed in his static.

This doesn't happen nearly as much as people like to claim it does, stop perpetuating that mindset. Jerks exist, but most people who parse; while upset by unperformers, won't kick you simply because you're not playing to their standards.

[Reynhart]

This doesn't happen nearly as much as people like to claim it does, stop perpetuating that mindset.

I never said it happens that frequently, but not having an official parser means that you can report those who do for breaking the ToS.

And even if one don't kick everyone in sight, claiming that parsing is the only way to judge if someone is improving is already a slippery slope.

[Booden]

I like your ideas but what would blood even do in single target then if Bloodspiller had no blood cost? Perhaps you could make Dark Passenger a single target offgcd that costs blood, similar to SAM's shinten? And you'd spam this in delirium/unbuffed burst windows.

I was throwing out random suggestions, but you'd basically waste it on ogcd quietus. Could always have Bloodspiller with a 20 blood gauge cost, so to prevent gauge overflowing during non burst rotation.

I never said it happens that frequently, but not having an official parser means that you can report those who do for breaking the ToS.

And even if one don't kick everyone in sight, claiming that parsing is the only way to judge if someone is improving is already a slippery slope.

But someone that understands a mechanic and stops dying to it will obviously see an improvement to his DPS, even if it's a tank spamming rage of halone in tank stance. And the next step after mastering a mechanic (which isn't hard to do most of the time) is to optimize your rotation around it to get more out of that part of the battle, and end the fight faster to avoid enrage, that applies to every class in this game. Once a fight has been cleared, you can plan around it really easily before entering because it's completely scripted. Your DPS can only go up, being proof of your performance. A dude that keeps dying to mechanics but has ridiculously high dps sounds like a very rare scenario.

[Reynhart]

But someone that understands a mechanic and stops dying to it will obviously see an improvement to his DPS, even if it's a tank spamming rage of halone in tank stance. And the next step after mastering a mechanic (which isn't hard to do most of the time) is to optimize your rotation around it to get more out of that part of the battle, and end the fight faster to avoid enrage, that applies to every class in this game.

And you can do that without a parser to attain a number high enough so you're undoubtedly pulling your weight.

[Bec]

I think the main issue here is just a numbers thing, quietus as an offgcd is just too much potency in aoe, while being a little weird to be using in single target. having DP buffed in potency and be similar in use to shinten I think would solve the issue