Gayorzea: Discord Partner community for LGBT FFXIV players

[Taika]

Thats in real life though, that makes sense. But how does such a thing come up in the game? What context would it make sense to reveal the personal details of your life to strangers?

You talk of the game as if it weren't a social environment just like any other. It's perfectly normal to chat casually and share some details of yourself in a hobby environment like a football or choir practice or book club or whatever, just like in in game chat with your FC or LS. Phrases like "Afk, husband just made us dinner" are to me perfectly normal human communication, but for some people they become "flaunting one's sexuality" as soon as they assume the person saying or writing that phrase male. I don't think anyone is entering leveling roulette or Savage PF group and opening chat with "hey, I'm gay", but if you start chatting with people, it just may come up unless you're intentionally trying to hide it, especially when using a gendered language like English (or the other officially supported languages of the game).

[dynus]

The game is a social one. Ergo, it's part of real life.

And this Discord is about being social with other members of the LGTB community and not having to worry about constantly coming out. To make friends with them because they share an interest in the game, and hey, sometimes its hard to meet other LGTB people where you live.

That's what this discord is for.

[Metalwrath]

Straight player here myself.
I dont see what what the big fuss is here.If people want to have a linkshell or discord for people with different styles of life then let them.Im confused how people think that just because they have this discord or linkshell that they will box themselves away with the community.Im sure many of these players are also in fc's,linkshells and discords with many straight players and socialize with them too.
It would be different if some of them said i wont play with straight players or socialize with them at all.Im sure there are some players like that but they are more likely the minority.

[Lorgana]

The game is part of real life. My sides are in space. GG

You do you boo

For context though I agree that its social, which is why it might come up to people you consider friends. The purpose of this discord supposedly was to escape "toxic" people. Now them being toxic implies that they know you're LGBTQ, which implies you've told them. My point originally was that outside of your friend circle you probably shouldn't be telling people much about yourself beyond " Yes I can tank". If you feel the need to broadcast your real life to them (real life being who you are not in a game) then thats your decision, but imo like I said before, thats just asking to be trolled

[alimdia]

So you belittle/censor him and another people who agree with him ? Kinda hypocrite dont you think.

It's a dismissive post so I don't see the hypocrisy, bigotry should never get a pass no matter how accepting someone might be.

Nowhere in Vanille's post is that said or implied. Quit reading more into people's posts than what is actually said. Belittle the OP? Oh please...have people really become so sensitive that sharing an opinion like that means that they're condescending or belittling?

They wrote it in very plain words, I don't know why you're now trying to pretend it's saying something else. Funny how neither of them answered my questions.

[VanilleFang]

And this Discord is about being social with other members of the LGTB community and not having to worry about constantly coming out.

Uhm. I just "came out" to my Discord group (yesterday? day before?) and you know what? It wasn't hard... or important. It literally came up in normal conversation. They thought I was a girl because I have a husband, I corrected them. That's literally all that happened.

Coming out was hard the first time I did it, with my mother. After that? It's a whatever thing. Anyone who makes a big issue of "constantly coming out" puts too much emphasis on their sexual orientation.

[MoroMurasaki]

No, it's legitimately a bad opinion because all it does is belittle the OP because "Oh, I'm an intellectual because I don't need a Discord with people like me to get by!". Girl, please, keep that opinion to yourself. Nobody needs that negativity in their life.

I somehow missed this gem, shame on me.

Where does Vanille claim to be an intellectual? Where do they put down the OP?

They said they don't feel the need to box themself in based on sexual orientation. Do you believe people should do that?

Being LGBT means that you share a sexual orientation or gender expression with other members of that community. It doesn't mean literally anything else. People who feel the need to focus so hard on something that is such a small part of who they are legitimately confuse me.

[VanilleFang]

No, it's legitimately a bad opinion because all it does is belittle the OP because "Oh, I'm an intellectual because I don't need a Discord with people like me to get by!". Girl, please, keep that opinion to yourself. Nobody needs that negativity in their life.

People can do whatever they want. I just said my piece. People can agree or disagree, thats up to them.

[Rokke]

That is ...holy hell.

That is not what Antonio was suggesting here. Could've been worded better (especially at the end) but I get the kind of point he was making. It's responses like this that spark the pettiness that has been going on in this thread since page one.

Except it totally is? According to him, if you bring up any aspects of your irl life in game, you encourage people to be cruel to you. We should all hide who we are as game chat should only ever discuss raid times, hunt positions, and "o/".

[Jobio]

-Snipped for Character Count-

You're implying that it is our fault that people react negatively to our sexuality.

When I started my job 5 years ago, I had to calculate if it would be okay for me to put a picture of my husband on my desk. My co-worker in the next office simply placed photos of his wife on his desk. In parts of the US, it is not illegal to fire someone for their sexuality. A simple family photo can be a tip-off.

Likewise, if I'm in a PF group and my husband needs to talk to me, I will say "I need to talk to my husband, BRB" It isn't that hard to use context clues to conclude that I'm gay. Especially if the PF requires Discord.

Groups like this exist because of prejudice. I would love to live in a future where these groups aren't needed. We aren't there yet. XIV has its moments. Gayorzea is an easy way to cut out the stress of being bashed. It let's us be us without fear. It lets us meet people with similar experiences.