FYI: 3 stars aren't easier than Ala Mhigan

[Kaurhz]

There's already multiple 35\70 macros even on Day 1. But hey you do you if inefficiency's your thing.

It ultimately comes down to his stats and whether he's able to fit the entirety of the rotation into around 63 steps and achieve HQ from all NQ mats. If he's able to do that with minimum/low stats, then, yeah, he's being far more efficient than if he were to do it using Initial Preparation of Muscle Memory. Not that I'm a fan of it.

[RayneLittlewinkle]

There's already multiple 35\70 macros even on Day 1. But hey you do you if inefficiency's your thing.

Where are you spotting these?

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Maker's Mark was totally fine. The 35 durab stuff aren't too difficult.

[StouterTaru]

There's already multiple 35\70 macros even on Day 1. But hey you do you if inefficiency's your thing.

Yes, and they each take at least 15 more steps than my half-fast 35 macro and are 50% HQ at best.

[tayler1480]

These new 3* items are a lot easier.

An Example

I can 100% HQ these 3* items with all NQ mats. 1525/1642(including seafood stew) are minimum requirements. Tested in game.



Actually impossible to 100% the ala mhigan stuff using all NQ mats (Excluding Maker's Mark):


(This is with 4000 starting quality)

[Sylvain]

Well i find the 3 star much easier than the "hard" 2 star personally.

I managed quite a few HQ without any or very little HQ mats, whereas I would have not attempted such a thing with the hard2stars recipies without mama rotation

[o0DVS0o]

Maker's Mark isn't dead for me I'm afraid, as I haven't found an alternative to it for Ala Mhigan gear/materials. I also still find it useful on crafting 3-star 70 Dura gear, but I would like to find an alternative for that at least, it's just the rotations I have seen require more CP than I have (462) and I use Warrior Stew instead of CP food.

Also I still consider Ala Mhigan gear more difficult to craft than the new 3-star gear/materials just based on the difficulty/quality requirements mentioned above along with the steps required.

[Liam_Harper]

Maker's Mark isn't dead for me I'm afraid, as I haven't found an alternative to it for Ala Mhigan gear/materials. I also still find it useful on crafting 3-star 70 Dura gear, but I would like to find an alternative for that at least, it's just the rotations I have seen require more CP than I have (462) and I use Warrior Stew instead of CP food.

3 Star Rotations designed for 462 base CP:

3 Star Specialist 70 Dura: https://i.imgur.com/7hsxDm7.jpg

3 Star Specalist 35 Dura: https://i.imgur.com/DJ8K2um.jpg

3 Star Non-Specialist 70 Dura: https://i.imgur.com/YmkZuZR.jpg

For 3 Star Non-Specialist 35 Dura Katlyna's rotation is ideal: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Lazy-Crafter

You'll probably need to adjust your food. A stack of HQ Tempura Platter comes in very handy for SB crafting.
Hope that helps

[Katlyna]

Maker's Mark isn't dead for me I'm afraid, as I haven't found an alternative to it for Ala Mhigan gear/materials. I also still find it useful on crafting 3-star 70 Dura gear, but I would like to find an alternative for that at least, it's just the rotations I have seen require more CP than I have (462) and I use Warrior Stew instead of CP food.

Also I still consider Ala Mhigan gear more difficult to craft than the new 3-star gear/materials just based on the difficulty/quality requirements mentioned above along with the steps required.

I still use MaMa for Ala Mhigan gear still as well. I could use a two button macro for it, but the starting quality requirements are high enough I would have to HQ the threads/snailoil, and instead I NQ all of those. So a Mama rotation with more quality actually saves time.

As Liam mentioned there are a number of rotations which you could probably fit in with 462 CP. The ones he posted all look great. You can use any of my rotations if you use HQ food to make up for the CP you are missing (plus or minus a potion for any missing stats).