Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
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The existence of this thread and the OP actually showing a modicum of self reflection about how he plays because of it shows me that it accomplished quite a lot.

You can sit here wringing your hands about how awful it was, but he was given an entire dungeon to listen to advice that was offered, and in the end it was the only method that led to any results.
That's fine, the group was right to kick them. But it didn't really accomplish anything but make them wait for a tank.