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    xMysticx's Avatar
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    Mystic Lord
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    Ultros
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    Paladin Lv 90
    First of all i literally just said this was my 1st character, also i'm trying to get better i've done research also you can't expect someone to be a pro first time like i've said i'm getting better, also i never refused advice,
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    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    First of all i literally just said this was my 1st character, also i'm trying to get better i've done research also you can't expect someone to be a pro first time like i've said i'm getting better, also i never refused advice,
    People are giving you helpful advice. Take it or expect to see more situations like this crop up. 50+ content takes a basic undsrstanding of your class especially as a tank or a healer.
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    First of all i literally just said this was my 1st character, also i'm trying to get better i've done research also you can't expect someone to be a pro first time like i've said i'm getting better, also i never refused advice,
    By your own admission, you ignored your group's suggestion and judging by what was said in the other thread, they gave you a lot of the information youre getting here.

    No one is expecting perfection from a new player. We are expecting a basic knowledge of how to tank a dungeon by level 50 however.
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    First of all i literally just said this was my 1st character, also i'm trying to get better i've done research also you can't expect someone to be a pro first time like i've said i'm getting better, also i never refused advice,
    To be harsh: you are not new. Your char is level 50, which was the maximum level when this game was released. It means you played quite a few hours.
    At that level I expect a general competence of any player.
    I never expect savage ready performance but I do expect you to know which skill to use in what situation.

    Shield lob should be used for 2 things:
    - maintaining aggro on a target at a distance
    - pulling mobs VERY far away

    Contrary to popular opinion I find it quite idiotic to pull groups with it, even though every tank does it. You are left with 2.5s in which X-1 mobs are free to do as they please while you wait on your GCD, while simple minded DPS thinks "TANK DID STH!! ERMAGAAAWD AOE DAMAGE NAO!!11"

    I much rather pull with Unleash / Flash or Abyssal drain.
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Contrary to popular opinion I find it quite idiotic to pull groups with it, even though every tank does it. You are left with 2.5s in which X-1 mobs are free to do as they please while you wait on your GCD, while simple minded DPS thinks "TANK DID STH!! ERMAGAAAWD AOE DAMAGE NAO!!11"
    This is untrue. You use shield lob to pull groups from range, at which the 2.5s will be filled with gap closing. If this is too much then CoS is a very valid part of your opener. Keeping hate while pulling with shield lob is not harmful in the slightest if you have a basic grasp of tank rotations
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    This is untrue. You use shield lob to pull groups from range, at which the 2.5s will be filled with gap closing. If this is too much then CoS is a very valid part of your opener. Keeping hate while pulling with shield lob is not harmful in the slightest if you have a basic grasp of tank rotations
    Sorry but I have seen WAAY too many tank lose aggro that way and then frantically collect the 2 mobs gnaw on DPS players.
    I usually play as a WHM, so it's not me that is tanking or DPSing.
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    EorzeaHero69's Avatar
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    George Strong
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    First of all i literally just said this was my 1st character, also i'm trying to get better i've done research also you can't expect someone to be a pro first time like i've said i'm getting better, also i never refused advice,
    To some people, ignoring the chat a person posts that gives you suggestions in the chat log is the same thing as refusing advice.
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