Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
Or they were hoping that he would actually take their advice and improve? Instead of kicking them right away - and probably kicked them once they figured it was useless, given that, according to the other sides version of events includes a line like "because it does good damage" when told not to use Shield Loop as much.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
The off putting part is when they kicked him, not that they did.
What's not being addressed its the time spent in that dgn. Obviously it doesn't make sense to kick someone right at the start.

But there is a MIDDLE to the run. Yes, they spent time trying to teach the tank how to tank but it had to click at some point that it wasn't going to sink in. From what we gathered, the tank was doing his shield lob from start to near finish and was making the run longer than it was supposed to.

This one's to Kaldea: are you telling me that it only dawned upon you to kick him right before the last boss? This is not a short dgn by any means and if that guy made things longer, that means there was AMPLE time to kick him.

That's what I don't get. Again, I'm not against the deicision to kick him nor am I disagreeing with not kicking at the start. It's just that, to illustrate what I mean, if you're ten minutes in and you just finished the second boss and you know that reaching the last one is gonna take another 5-10, why not kick him right at the second boss? It doesn't have to be specifically at that point but seems to me like a good point to kick someone who plays like that tank is at least in the middle of a run.

Please explain that.