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  1. #181
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    Teiren's Avatar
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    Haruna Astir
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I have reports from years ago still showing in-game for me because I only ever did 4, so it would definitely still be in there until whatever cap the report History has.
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  2. #182
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    Ooyama's Avatar
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    Confused Bystander
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 80

    Circumstance?

    One large concern about the action to be taken against players is that the exploit began being looked at/being used only after someone had contacted a GM in-game about it, and when asking about whether or not it was against ToS, was told that the GM could not say if it was or wasn't. If there's so much disconnect that a GM cannot say if it violates any of the game's terms, with no client-side adjustment, I think anything past a 24 hour ban would be absolutely insane.
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  3. #183
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ooyama View Post
    One large concern about the action to be taken against players is that the exploit began being looked at/being used only after someone had contacted a GM in-game about it, and when asking about whether or not it was against ToS, was told that the GM could not say if it was or wasn't. If there's so much disconnect that a GM cannot say if it violates any of the game's terms, with no client-side adjustment, I think anything past a 24 hour ban would be absolutely insane.
    I assume its standard procedure for a GM to say that until they look into it.That being said if the GM couldnt say at the time common sense would be for the player not to use until the exploit being confirmed as allowed or not.Whats probably happened though is once the majority of the player base got wind of this glitch existing they rushed out to abuse it as much as possible before it got fixed.
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  4. #184
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    The thing is if SE actually rolls back achievements, earned items, and gil earned through using the exploit, most players having all their ill-gotten gains deleted would likely just leave the game in a huff anyway.

    But seriously, if you're still attempting to use it today, you're just asking for trouble at this point. Don't experiment!
    Those people would still be a minority and im sure cheaters wouldnt be missed from the game.
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  5. #185
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    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    Those people would still be a minority and im sure cheaters wouldnt be missed from the game.
    Exactly. I do think SE needs to ban players that repeatedly used it (like those Ultimate and Savage sellers) but I think players that were caught up in parties that used it without any foreknowledge or just tried it once to see shouldn't get their accounts revoked. Suspensions and rollbacks for them.
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  6. #186
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Riardon View Post
    Having an unpatched exploit for a year doesn't give you the moral to start ban hammers
    If you aren't banned for violating the ToS for any amount of time, it doesnt give you the right to do it freely or unpunished forever. The "I am doing this bad thing and still got unpunished, so this is legit" statement is false.

    Quote Originally Posted by Riardon View Post
    it's beyond ridiculous to leave such exploits for such a long time unfixed.
    Exploits are fixed when reported. The reason behind the serious stance SE got in this case, is because it seems all the people who found the exploit didn't reported it and used it for their own interest. Still no one reported evidence of the report done "long time ago". If no proof, it never happened. SE got notice of the exploit from external sources and this make it even worse for the offenders.

    Serious actions against them are the minimal thing I can expect, those players had spread in the community the false message that you can do whatever exploit you want, for all the time you want and get unpunished for it, and this is worse than the exploit itself.
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  7. #187
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    The fact that they'll quickly concern themselves with an exploit of this nature while seemingly ignoring any offenses pertaining to hacking and botting really is sending me a mixed message.
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  8. #188
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Bump! Sorry for the necro! According to Reddit, people are receiving a 9-days suspension because of this already. They are under review for a potential termination according to the mail they received.
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  9. #189
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    Airget's Avatar
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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    The fact that they'll quickly concern themselves with an exploit of this nature while seemingly ignoring any offenses pertaining to hacking and botting really is sending me a mixed message.
    Hacking and Botting is about removing the gil, by removing the bots all they do is make it harder to get rid of the gil they are making. SE prefers to hit RMT hard, when they ban, they ban in mass because it's the most likely way to remove gil from the servers however if all they did was constantly ban the bots then they would just have the RMT play safer which would make it harder to remove the gil from servers.

    As for this exploit, this effects the integrity of endgame content and those who knowingly used it for clear and didn't stop are easy to punish because it's blatantly obvious. They had to actively type in the command to activate it.

    While yes you might think it's easy to ban a hacker/bot you also can't assume they are bots, if a person is named Xccd Khjgj, they can't assume that they are an Bot, it could just be a player who is lazy and wants to farm, so they have to do their homework before banning them. And again unlike the LB issue that is an easy catch, people purposely typed in the command and knew it was an exploit and continued to do it.
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  10. #190
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    Divinemights's Avatar
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    Bump! Sorry for the necro! According to Reddit, people are receiving a 9-days suspension because of this already. They are under review for a potential termination according to the mail they received.
    Like i said, do not challenge S/E with the "I am paying customer" arrogance.
    They are not North Americans and they are operating on an Asian philosophy: "Kill one to warn the rest".
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