Honestly, if someone is hearing that tip for the zetaest time and still isnt able to execute positionals, they might want to consider playing a class that doesnt require them. That sounds harsh, but depending on the character level, I can only imagine two scenarios here:
1) A new-ish player (below 50, I'd say - probably more below 35, but with all the exp-buffs and what not lets go with 50) who actually doesnt know about positionals. Despite tooltips making them quite clear. This person would benefit from someone pointing them out to them.
2) A player willfully ignoring positionals. It doesnt take "month" to master positionals - it might take some time to master a class, yes. But performing positionals at a basic level? Yeah, no. We're not talking about htting 100% of them right now. We're talking about trying to hit them at all. How is it not annoying to see a person not even trying? You cant talk about "Oh, this needs time to learn!" and then dont expect people to actually practise that, aka: trying their best to perform such positionals in dungeons. They're a basic aspect of some melee-classes and just how you expect tanks to tank, healers to heal and a BLM to alternate between fire and ice, you should expect everyone to perform the basics of their job. Some jobs require more of you than others, which is good since it gives people who are willing to invest more time and effort a chance to do so. But it also means that if you cant do that, you probably should pick a job that caters more to your needs then. And if you say now "But what if that person really wants to play monk because their grandfather was a monk?" then I can only say: "I hope they're dedicated enough then to learn that class - or pick an easier one if its to difficult for them"
Seriously, I dont understand how people are okay with players unable to perform basics of their job. I dont get this whole cuddling, "making everyone feel supi-dupi about themself"-thing. Obviously, no one should be rude... but isnt it kinda rude already to enter a duty when you're not actually up to perform? I get the whole "they might be a slow learner"-thing, but can we please, please stop using that as an excuse after a certain point? If someone is level 60 and cant do positionals, I dont know what to tell them besides "There is this circle under every mob, the arrow points at the front. The open part is the back. The stuff between are the sides. Now place yourself according to the skill. If you cant do that: Try one of the many classes that doesnt require positionals."
Or maybe I dont want to waste the time of the other people in that duty? Because sitting down with someone, explaining stuff in length means: we're standing still. Might be helpful for the person in need of advice. Is okay for me. Probably extremly annoying for the 2 (or 6) other people around. Personally, I most often offer to stay after the run and answer any questions anyone might have. I dont recall a single duty where someone has taken me up on that offer, despite me being quite polite and friendly.



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