The PF is absolutely pathetic (O7s)

[AncientCrystal]

The situation with O7s parties is a complete joke at this point. Too many people joining in clear parties and not coming anywhere NEAR being able to complete it. Not even to third phase. And folks, virus IS NOT HARD AT ALL.

The other problem with these PFs is how the groups or the party leader are not allowing the team to have 1 or 2 practice runs before letting the group clear. From my experience in this game even if you are posting for a clear party that doesn't mean the team is going to clear the first time with a PERFECT run and on with the their day, people are going to make mistakes so giving 1 or 2 wipes is not that bad. Then if the group keeps wiping then reform. You do need to give some lee way or your just looking for a perfect storm that frankly your never going to find.

Guys the O7s groups are a complete joke all away around. It's atrocious.

[BluexBird]

There's not much that can be done. Most people are still learning the fight, and the ones who cleared it already, don't want to deal with doing it again. Yes, actual virus isn't hard, but sometimes people screw up passing it.

Having been in countless failed parties, I notice the problem isn't virus though. It's a couple of things:

1. Not spreading properly for Ink. This one kills people the most during the first phase.
2. Not realizing it's Biblios, and preparing for a knockback/ink/airforce instead. This is the most common reason parties wipe after virus.
3. Getting hit by rockets during the second Ultros.
4. Not running away properly when he flies up after Viral Weapon. People need to do Rabanastre more.
5. Not shielding the tank during tank buster, meaning there's a chance the boss will crit with his next attack and the tank will die. If you're a healer, please don't let this happen...

And then of course there's the issue of not doing enough damage. I go with the rule that if the boss isn't below 57% by the time virus starts casting, you probably aren't going to clear. ESPECIALLY if a DPS ends up dying later on.

Anyways, if you really want to clear, your best bet is Tuesday right after the reset, or Tuesday night. After that, your chances of clearing begin going downhill pretty fast.

[Penthea]

I suggest you raid with a static team if you have issues with pugging savage. Savage isn't designed for pugs and in a pug environment you don't have much quality control over the players, so it's hardly surprising many problems happen.

[Kyp]

JP community raid finders this content, easily puggable

[DGladius]

Any savage can be done with pugs, the issue is there aren't many good NA raiding players to pug with. O3S was a nightmare, I stopped caring after doing 100ish pulls with many different groups.

[Kyp]

your not wrong, the raid community has been very small since 3.0,

[Maero]

Most so called "clear" parties are like this though i find. They mark clear or farm parties yet fail at 80%
Your best bet is to find a static

[Metalwrath]

your not wrong, the raid community has been very small since 3.0,

Since 3.0 the amount of raiders has vastly increased.There's probably a lot more raid statics since there used to be too.They may not be of the same quality.
You gotta remember that raiding has become a lot more casual than it used to be so you are bound to encounter a lot more bad apples than before in PF.

[Andevom]

JP community raid finders this content, easily puggable

Are you suggesting the NA/EU community actually use the Raid Finder?! Madness!

(Seriously though, what's the harm at this point?)

[Vidu]

The complaint sounds as if at least half of it is directed towards party leaders being to quick to disband groups?
You do know that there is an easy fix for that, dont you? Become the partyleader yourself and be willing to give that lee way.

I understand the general sentiment of allowing for tow or three wipes, but I also know that - generally speaking - one pull can be enough to get an idea of wether or not that group is able to clear this content or not. Or rather: wether or not the majority of the group knows the majority of the fight or not. Since I'm not pugging Savage thanks to a casual static, let me give an example from Shinryu: I joined several "clear" or "kill for a friend"-groups and I'm really quick to leave them if people mess up tails. I had several healers who had no idea what they're supposed to do with that marker and sorry, thats not "clear"-quality.
For O7S I'd expect several early-fight-mechanics to be able to raise similar red flags - from orb placement on DPS, to not finding Biblio-spots, stacking for ink or taking Dadarumas beam into the party.
For Virus we're also having the additional problem of unfortunate serverticks - something that cant really be resolved by the group or their performance but is ratehr up to SE to fix.