Extreme primals do not belong in Mentor roulette.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I love mentor roulette because it's sometimes an actual challenge... and despite their sarcasm I agree that Alex and coils should be added to mentor roulette... I seem to only ever get guildhests when I queue for it...

Coil is Savage level content. Imagine taking brand new players with no endgame experience into Phantom Train or Guardian Savage. I wish you well teaching them that.

[Oakley]

I love mentor roulette because it's sometimes an actual challenge... and despite their sarcasm I agree that Alex and coils should be added to mentor roulette... I seem to only ever get guildhests when I queue for it...

Normal Alex and Omega are, in my opinion, the perfect use case for Mentor roulette. On-par difficulty for the average novice, with just enough mechanics that mentorship is helpful and impactful and can prevent a few wipes. Ex primals are just too hard for average groups. They should either be nerfed so that pug groups can clear them synced or removed from any automatic group finder altogether.

[Mavrias]

Normal Alex and Omega are, in my opinion, the perfect use case for Mentor roulette. On-par difficulty for the average novice, with just enough mechanics that mentorship is helpful and impactful and can prevent a few wipes. Ex primals are just too hard for average groups. They should either be nerfed so that pug groups can clear them synced or removed from any automatic group finder altogether.

You sound like a coward who just wants easy rides all the time. Just don''t do the roulette if you can't stomach an EX primal.

[KaivaC]

Normal Alex and Omega are, in my opinion, the perfect use case for Mentor roulette. On-par difficulty for the average novice, with just enough mechanics that mentorship is helpful and impactful and can prevent a few wipes. Ex primals are just too hard for average groups. They should either be nerfed so that pug groups can clear them synced or removed from any automatic group finder altogether.

While I don't agree with your original post, I do agree about Alex and Omega. These are pretty great for mentors to actually do some mentoring (ideally...we all know how some mentors tend to act in this roulette).

[Oakley]

You sound like a coward who just wants easy rides all the time. Just don''t do the roulette if you can't stomach an EX primal.

I'm not trying to get an easy ride. I'm trying to prevent negative interactions between mentors and novices that ultimately result from Extreme primals encountered via the roulette. I had to clear all those primals myself when they were relevant, so I'm certainly not afraid to "stomach" doing them. And name-calling doesn't really contribute to discussion.

While I don't agree with your original post, I do agree about Alex and Omega. These are pretty great for mentors to actually do some mentoring (ideally...we all know how some mentors tend to act in this roulette).

IMO the best cases for Mentor roulette are normal and hard mode trials, normal mode raids, and maybe some hard mode dungeons, since they are semi-challenging content where new players could benefit from having that guidance.

[Miste]

I've done over 2000 mentor roulettes and I don't see the issue with the EX primals being in the mentor roulette.

I mean yes new players would be likely better off using PF and unsync, and I have advised players that if they wish to complete it quicker or with less frustration then PF WT unsync is the way to go instead of DFing it.

But some players maybe prefer the bit more challenge that sync offers, whatever, everyone plays differently. I personally probably wouldn't bother on old content if I was late to the game, but some might not feel that way and they are entitled to use DF as they wish.

I mean EX primals is the single only thing in that roulette that is somewhat more time consuming and difficult. A few of them are quite hard and yeah you rarely get a clear, but if you get one just try to help in whatever way you can for however long you have to offer. It isn't really that bad and that is coming from someone with over 2000 runs done...I saw my fair share of EX Primals. I helped quite a few groups get clears.

In general the majority of duties you get through mentor roulette are not EX primals, so I don't see it as an issue if you get them sometimes...just try to help.

As for Alex and Omega normal I 100% agree they should be in mentor roulette...confuses me why they aren't. Nevermind I just didn't look first, they did add those in finally.

[Oakley]

As for Alex and Omega normal I 100% agree they should be in mentor roulette...confuses me why they aren't.

Normal modes are. Savage aren't and shouldn't be.

[Miste]

Normal modes are. Savage aren't and shouldn't be.

Oh I guess they finally added them, nevermind. I meant normal modes not savage.

[Riko_Futatabi]

You done the work to unlock Mentor roulette and became a "Mentor". Your a Teacher, you don't think Teachers have negative experiences?! Lol.

Now be that Mentor you'd want to have; and deal with it! /shades ;P

[Mirch]

heh? :thonking: mentor roulette is just there to fill queues which is one of the smartest things they ever made.