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  1. #51
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    basketofseals's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    There's three big reasons SE is reluctant to do this, some of which have been covered thoroughly in this thread:
    - LORE: A huge part of this game is the conflict between the Human races and the Beast races. The player storyline has them pretty thoroughly entrenched as a Human member of this conflict. If a bestial race was added, they'd either need to retool the storyline, or explain why this new race is somehow considered to be a Human race, in spite of the fact that they look no more human than the Amal'ja.
    Isn't this just an Eorzea and possibly Garlean thing? So far we've yet to see this be an issue again. The Beast Tribes in HW have half and half with both peace and conflict, Ala Mhigo seems to have only the Qalyana and they're a minority, and the Doman beast tribes seem to have no issues whatsoever on the whole until Garlemald messed up the Red Kojin and the Lupin. Everyone seems to come and go as they please in Kugane and the Lupin have seemingly completely integrated with the local Hyuran population.
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  2. #52
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    Kogekigami's Avatar
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    Lark Weaver
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    The problem with the more beast like races also mean you find things like hairstyles and make up would be to hard to fit in. Same with the gear. Also story wise I think it be weird with them accepting a beast kin as a warrior of light/adventurer at the start of the game. Heck i found the Au ra jarring enough especially when you get told people fear aura therefore yugiri had to cover up until her disguise got ruined.... which she will still say this if you are a aura...
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  3. #53
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    Isn't this just an Eorzea and possibly Garlean thing? So far we've yet to see this be an issue again.
    It might not be an issue everywhere, but a playable beast character has to go through the whole story from the start, so it is still going to be “an issue” at the establishing stage of the plot.
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  4. #54
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Since Moogles exist in FFXIV, even so far as having tribes, I can't really see the Ivalician style Moogles becoming playable. Which sucks.

    THAT SAID, I would cast my personal vote towards the cute and plant-like Lilties or the equally cute Yukes of the Crystal Chronicals spinoffs.

    A pair of Lilties. I think the Lalafell onion hair is based on these guys. There are real possibilities for cool designs in regards to the leafyness. Skin gradiants are common on them in other games of the series.

    And Yukes. They could demask them and actually give us a slightly less human face that doesn't break helm models. Stripes, feathers?

    I just really like them and it wouldn't take that much redesign to slide them into Eorzea.
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  5. #55
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    Rofel Dokfel
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    Isn't this just an Eorzea and possibly Garlean thing?
    Yup! Lupins were common neighbours to Domans b efore the invasion.

    Its funny because in the last All Saint's Wake, the wolf dude was walking freely around Gridania, and even the Empire doesn't seem to consider them a beast tribe since they are the Ferae Domitae unity.

    People doesn't understand it's not just a matter of looking like a beast.
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  6. #56
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    Terrini Littlebottom
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    We will not get more beastlike races because of how much customization would have to be done to accommodate widely varied bodies, like Viera feet or burmecian snouts. We are stuck with mostly humanoid races for this reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rofel View Post
    Yup! Lupins were common neighbours to Domans b efore the invasion.
    Its funny because in the last All Saint's Wake, the wolf dude was walking freely around Gridania, and even the Empire doesn't seem to consider them a beast tribe since they are the Ferae Domitae unity.
    People doesn't understand it's not just a matter of looking like a beast.
    Please recall he was not received WELL until after you went around explaining the whole All Saint's thing and people were delighted with it. It would still be looked down on most of the time. Heck, they tone down or off racism for the Warrior of Light like crazy already. Racism in Gridania is actually pretty severe against Duskwights, and any race besides Elezen or hyur. You get all sorts of stories about the troubles of different races being accepted in Gridania in the Post Moogle quests in particular, like Miounne relating how the Waterwheel in Gridania was a testament to begrudgingly accepting Lalafell! Or the trials of being a Miqo'te and honoring your heritage and Gridanian Laws doesn't really mesh all that well, so most Miqo'te in Gridania end up as bandits, and Duskwights and Wildwoods are basically the same race except Duskwights stayed in caves and Wildwoods moved to the surface and there has been bad blood between the two since! But the WoL is exempt from it all.
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  7. #57
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    You know, it's something I always wanted after how much I loved their designs, so it's nice seeing others showing support for Ivalice Moogles here. They would be the simplest beastial race to implement because of how short their snouts are (you could basically just reuse lalafell assets and cut the pointy ear bits off), and since we had them considering putting Viera in it's not like they're really off the table.

    Is there any way we could make some more noise in support for them?
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  8. #58
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Quote Originally Posted by lori_9 View Post
    Is there any way we could make some more noise in support for them?
    I think the deal with them is lore. The devs could probably lift much of the design and write them as something other than a Moogle, though. Just remove the pom and wings, and we could have little, cute bunnies with a structure similar enough to Lalas.

    That said, there was the dubbed "cutesy" Viera concept, that thinking on it now, resemble Ivalician Moogles more than Viera.

    Personally, I love both designs.

    In before FFXVIII is an Ivalician MMO. (But then I'd probably play a Seeq since I like mage jobs best.)
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  9. #59
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    Also, hasn't it been pretty retconned that Yugiri's choice to cover herself was more that she was Hien's retainer?

    I haven't seen anyone else note that, so I guess not.
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  10. #60
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    Viglundur Krummason
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    Although I wouldn’t mind a new race. I’d prefer more customization for our current ones.
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