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    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
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    I'm basing my opinion on 13 Years of playing MMOs and console games. And while it's still only an opinion, there's pretty solid evidence that online communities in the West are far more toxic than their Eastern counterparts. And American communities are usually the absolute worst.

    No, I do not speak Japanese. But the people I've talked to in-game, who do, say that the JP community is in general, much nicer and more chill. And a cursory glance at the two cultures in real life backs that up.

    And the toxic stuff I see in NN is usually racial slurs, trolling, ya know, the normal stuff you find in pretty much every MMO. I usually ignore it because general chat channels in all MMOs are mostly unreadable. Which is the unfortunate norm in our country.
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    Miste Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    there's pretty solid evidence that online communities in the West are far more toxic than their Eastern counterparts. And American communities are usually the absolute worst.
    Where is this solid evidence you speak of though? All I see is personal anecdotal experiences to form an opinion. It isn't evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    No, I do not speak Japanese. But the people I've talked to in-game, who do, say that the JP community is in general, much nicer and more chill.
    This is also just more anecdotes. It's not evidence or proof of anything.

    I mean if you want an idea about how different people's experiences can be my experience with Japanese players was not as "chill" as your apparent acquaintances.

    I can read Japanese at basic level and they likely don't realize I can read it and were openly insulting me in JP assuming since I was English that I couldn't read it. It's quite amusing really. This isn't a one time thing either. I've had it happen multiple times in different situations.

    These are all personal experiences as well, but in FFXI there were JP sky linkshell groups that would MPK NA linkshells when they were trying to get pop items in order to get rid of any competition when NA first started getting going into endgame. There were some JP EXP parties that would also MPK NA groups in order to take the EXP spot. Eventually MPK issues got so bad in that game SE had to alter mob AI (making mobs despawn when they lose aggro instead of pathing back) to try to stop it and also start banning people who purposefully did it.

    Even though my personal experience with them has been kinda bad (although to note I met many nice JP players too and became friends with them just as I have met many nice NA/EU players as well) I know it is only my personal experience so I know I can't claim either one is better or worse. We simply don't have any factual proof of either one.
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    Last edited by Miste; 03-01-2018 at 02:44 PM.