Ty for posting up a guide Lala,
in the past i was told rudely by some random that doton was not to be used on ST (bosses as example)
Ty for posting up a guide Lala,
in the past i was told rudely by some random that doton was not to be used on ST (bosses as example)
This is correct though. There are just some small exceptions for that, like TCJ (only because the TOTAL potency of fuma+katon+doton is higher, not doton alone) or the A12S fight when the boss stops the time and the ticks continue running (more dmg ticks), and even then only if the boss stands in the aoe and doesn't move around. But on a normal boss fight you should not be using a single Doton on a single target.
Well that was back in HW and i have since then not used it on ST. I was moreso referring to the guide posted in the link on the first page as it mentions doton for Single target.
Sometimes your issue can be CMP (cast per minute). High Latency/ping does affect this. Try to keep up-time on target as much as possible.
Another thing, NIN personal dps is actually on the lower end compared to other dps. Because you bring good party utility, your own personal dps is low (This is not a bad thing).
A very good guide to watch for all melees. Hope this helps![]()
"BAAAAAARD!" - 2018
Thanks all for the tips! How do u tell if you have high latency?
I am suspecting it could be my frequent of clicking the mouse rather than pressing buttons.
I'm playing on 100~120 latency with no issues. If your latency is lower than 100 then it is considered low.
Pressing your skills/abilities with mouse is fine, you're what we call a "clicker". Generally people talk negatively about it, but I've seen many PoVs of clickers who have cleared end game content. It shouldn't be a big issue![]()
Last edited by Yeol; 03-07-2018 at 06:13 PM.
"BAAAAAARD!" - 2018
On it's own, it's not worth using for ST, though it's your strongest AoE if you get all 8 ticks on every enemy (none die earlier), surpassed by Katon only if at least 30% of the damage would be wasted (through early deaths or movement). In ST, Raiton will deal the same damage, but will do so instantly (so that it can all be affected by TA if used in its window) and won't be reduced if the boss should be moved out of the zone of effect.
The reason it sees use, and in TCJ alone, is because you're forced into a choice between Futon (0 potency ~140 if you include skipping Armor Crush), Suiton (180), and Doton (360). If Suiton can give you TA, it effectively becomes, at bare minimum, 620, and is therefore better, but otherwise Fuma, Raiton, Suiton gives only 240-360-180 (780), while Fuma, Katon, Doton (if boss stays in Doton the full time) gives 240-250-360 (850). If you lose even just two ticks of Doton, Raiton-Suiton is stronger again.
Well, technically you'd double both of those, but that's your basis for comparison.
Thank you very much for that info ^ much appreciated
It is going to feel odd for me to raid as a mellee when i have always been a caster
After a few months of improving, i seemed to have more confident in my DPS. (with gear improvement too)
A question though, when do you guys use Goad and Shadewalker?
Shadewalker on tank right after he pulls or before it. Thankfully in our group i am the only mellee and the 2 tanks seem fine with tp management so i never need to use Goad.
Smokescreen i tend to apply to our blm on add phases, this is in Savage mind you.
As for doton i now change my stance on it and see why it does get used on single target. My dps has increased now with this. Dotton (before initial pull and tank pulls in place) Hide> Sutton and so on
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