Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Ametrine]

Well, my FC had 7 players enter an instance once, and we all commed the random archer we picked up because we could.

Also, Archer in 8-man trials.

[WilhelmWhite]

I'm 80% sure he was joking, but it still bothers me to be honest. One of the main reasons FFXIV is appealing to me is that classes aren't locked behind races. Honestly what is wrong with a big dude being a healer? Lalas never get this kind of grief when they tank. Idk, perhaps I'm just annoyed because this has happened many times. Or perhaps I'm just too sensitive.

[Iscah]

Just got done with an amdapor keep hard on my alt as AST, other people were DRK SAM SAM. [...]

That sounds a lot like the experience I posted about the other week with the two ninjas that were almost certainly being controlled by the same player. (And another one I had the other night with a summoner-and-scholar pair.) Matching names and only one of the two playing competently.

If that is the case, I'm guessing the 'getting left behind' happens if character A is set to /follow character B, but gets stuck on some uneven ground and has to be individually moved afterwards.

From watching the icons in the party status bar, with the ninjas, one was using lots of abilities but the other was doing very little. With the arcanist pair, I rarely saw all four DoTs up on bosses, and never heard the summoner cast Fester even though they did have Aetherflow on and off.

In both cases, damage was painfully slow throughout the entire dungeon. (Though I can't be certain it wasn't partly my fault in the second case, BLM not being my strong point and Keeper of the Lake not being a good place to stand still and cast spells.)

[ChloeGrace]

05N. Tank waits until I have both Refresh and Tactician on cooldown, then shirks me. OT continues to DPS, oblivious that a bard has hate.
I'm basically getting spam healed until I stop dpsing and ask why I'm tanking.

Am told, "It's fun."
No, actually. It's a dick move that make the whole thing take longer, hurts my dps and wastes healer mana.

[Nystai]

A rant I wanted to steam off;

Just another evening through Hell's lid, casting off RDM pewpews. Get reamed out with for 'not controlling my aggro' after the first boss from the tank.

Now note I generally use diversion during trash pulls so I cans pewpew during the pull without stripping the mobs off from the train. Because of that I didn't have diversion ready for pull on first boss cause I had used it during the lava valley pull just prior and did pull hate on opening but only for 1 auto attack and tank then got it back so saved lucid for stripping hate later if needed.

Well fight goes on and pull hate again
during a period where multiple ogcds are lining up and shooting off on top of regular gcds. Admittedly I could have used diversion before this but I missed it as I was in the moment and more focused on trying to get all the ogcds on cooldown without clipping. Was standing next to boss this time(preparing for the cone aoe) so its not like it ran anywhere; poped lucid and diversion and hate's back on tank and only 1 autoattack against me again as damage. Fight ends and get the 'control aggro' comment (even though tank only used 2 enmity combos the whole fight, but indeed I could have planned it better). Keep mouth shut cause no point in confronting cause all it'll do is delay the run in some fashion.

Throughout the rest of the run tank had a thorn in their side for me, twas already a 'baddie' in their eye. Starts talking how I should learn from the other dps in the party cause I have 'double his aggro' during fights. Mhmmm, yep sure let me just drop my damage 19% so I can match the aggro of the other dps (No offense to other dps if you happen read this, you did in fact decent damage for your ilvl)

More belittlements were said and I kept silent but tilted, I look back after the run. Turns out tank did 6 power slashes and 7 spinning slashes in the entire run, while I did 6 lucids and 9 diversions but yep sure... I'm the one that needs to learn to 'control my aggro'. Meanwhile other dps only used diversion 3 times and lucid twice, but I'll be sure that I take notes from them... (/s) (Again no offence to intended to the other dps, just inner-thought ranting to myself)

"Ah but you're too anxious, you sound quite aggressive in your encounter initiations and should make sure you wait just a few for the tank to establish hate before going full throttle otherwise you create unneeded work for the tank and healer" you might respond.

Yeah... no, I actually actively try to manage my aggro because of the spike nature of rdm's hate generation which is part of this reason this tilted me so much... The only excessively aggressive initiations I made were indeed the first boss and the two 'chimeria's before the last boss (I had used diversion on the previous pull and it was on CD, and had a double melee combo with manafication) but used lucid right after.

Now I'm no great player, I haven't done any of sigmascape savage yet, never even attempted ultimate nor do I really have a high desire too, and consider myself a casual player. But a tank claiming that I can't control my aggro when I use more aggro-dumping actions then they do enmity combos across the whole duty just /grinds me :/

[SenorPatty]

I'm 80% sure he was joking, but it still bothers me to be honest. One of the main reasons FFXIV is appealing to me is that classes aren't locked behind races. Honestly what is wrong with a big dude being a healer? Lalas never get this kind of grief when they tank. Idk, perhaps I'm just annoyed because this has happened many times. Or perhaps I'm just too sensitive.

Apparently, Roes are only allowed to tank or do some melee dps like mnk or sam. We're not allowed to be healers or casters. Being a ninja is a big no no cuz we're too big.

I had a catgirl once telling me I should be tanking due to my size once (I was lvling blm at the time). I told her lvling that job was already boring, I didn't need to tack on a generic appearance on top of it.

The other two lalas laughed and one of them kept using esuna on the catgirl. Made my day xD

[Thoosa]

People can be so unforgiving of tanks. I tried being cheeky and pulling everything after the second boss to the third on “temple of the fist”, used three cooldowns and died (there were about 3 monsters left from the pack) and got a sarcastic comment for it

[Ametrine]

BRB race swapping to roe to be the swollest WHM.

[Dualblade]

Today I get to be the problem, yay! Not too bad of one but still.

So its reset day, going on my PLD for the Sigma normal items. My first run is O4S. I've been gettin in the practice of using Cover/Tempered Will for atleast the other tank but for tonight I decided to use Cover on the first tank buster instead. Things go as normal, use Tempered for the first knockback without Cover, then we get to the second one...at which point Cover is up, I use it and get hit by double shockwave flying off to my home planet. Kinda embarrasing, but I get rezzed quickly by the RDM and apologize. Run goes as normal otherwise.

Second run is Phantom Train, easy right? Well the DRK doesn't want to tank so I decide to. I go for a Cover/Tempered on the MNK in the group this time who runs away anyways. We joke a bit since they aren't used to it, s'all good. I do the same thing, same player next knockback...only to not pay attention and get ghosted away. I think the tactic still worked for the MNK but not sure, kill the ghost and get back in time for adds. Then somehow I completely forget again that about the ghosts during the second phase and get transported again. My awareness needed to be put on apparently for all that I lacked of it.

[Sesera]

Comms are relative....or something. The other day I had a Pally die during the Heart of Titan phase and tanked/kited the boss until we beat him -no comms. Derped off a cliff and pulled a room full of monsters in Dzamael and got 3 comms. It never makes sense.

3 comms usually means they were in a party alltogether and they could only vote for you so as long as you weren't acting like a jerk there is little to no reason not to give you comms.

For exemple if I'm in a party with two other friends and we got a healer who has some difficulty to keep up I'll give him commendation but in the other if the player we met struggles to say "hello" and pulls before the tank or something like that he sure won't have neither comm or thanks from me.



Also I will suggest to have a chat window without the commendation thing on it.

People can be so unforgiving of tanks. I tried being cheeky and pulling everything after the second boss to the third on “temple of the fist”, used three cooldowns and died (there were about 3 monsters left from the pack) and got a sarcastic comment for it

I don't get it too. I mean we die and what? That's not the end of day.