Squadron limit break (Ungarmax) can be used in regular duties by any job

[bidaum92]

I wanted to leave a note here, since the link provided by Lilseph no longer works because I have made the report in question private. Due to details included in the report, we would prefer that it not remain a public post. However, we will still be handling the report normally and making sure that it is brought to the attention of the teams that will be looking into it.

I do hope this is resolved ASAP. I was the OP for the bug report after seeing the info on how to do it via discord.. and testing it.

If you also plan to private all steps to reproduce. There is also a JP bug report detailing how to do this bug, by the user Khliyh. However they didn't fill in the report fully and it got moved to insufficient information

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/s...rchid=63152756

[Metalwrath]

With this being becoming more known and also the fact that its become known that crafter fc's are doing data mining to determine the rotations and required matts to craft day 1 savage clears seem to becoming less and less credible as compared to how they used to.
Granted this has always gone on in some way or another for example in ARR most of the original titan hard mode clears weer done through an egi glitch and those people never got punished after.

[BristolRuss]

I do hope this is resolved ASAP. I was the OP for the bug report after seeing the info on how to do it via discord.. and testing it.

If you also plan to private all steps to reproduce. There is also a JP bug report detailing how to do this bug, by the user Khliyh. However they didn't fill in the report fully and it got moved to insufficient information

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/s...rchid=63144319

It might have been because your post had all of your install information posted in it; including programs such as ACT and KMSpico amongst others.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I think the worst part about it is that it's pretty clearly unintentional and those who are abusing it are getting a major, unfair advantage over honest players. Will they be punished, I wonder? I recall some horrible, selfish players using a similar exploit to make use of POTD items in PvP and dungeons yet in that case the individual(s) involved were never punished, or so I'm led to believe given that they're still around.

Yet if someone, in the heat of the moment, says a 'bad word' on this forum or in-game then there's a real risk that all their hard work will go down the drain and they'll be hit by the full force of the rules. In short, these sorts of exploits are plaguing the game and will continue to do so unless they are dealt with swiftly and harshly.

Sadly. I sincerely doubt it. A well known speedhacker remained prevalent in Feast for almost a year before quitting the game of his own volition. I can rattle off a few botters that basically control the consumable markets with 30+ stacks of 99 within less than a few days. SE does next to nothing in regards to blatant issues. I can't even fault the GMs because what can they really do? SE's policy prevents virtually any source of evidence. You can catch someone on a live Twitch stream and it isn't admissible due to a "possibility of it being altered." Not only is that assumption utterly ridiculous, even if true, the amount of technical knowledge required to make a convincing edit like that isn't someone a random troll is likely to have.

Now if you say "fuck" in say chat a few times. Well, you're just an awful person who needs be banned instantly. <insert eye roll>

[BunnyChain]

This would make an interesting variation of the usual LB.

[Rita1989]

I used Ungarmax

Is this thread making you sweat a bit?

[Metalwrath]

Yeah?

It devalues content.
People work hard to clear and then others use exploits to beat the content without working hard.
The whole point in content being challenging is based on skill.Not who can find an exploit to beat it the easiest way.

[Kresus]

So did I

How about you?

[Kresus]

It devalues content.
People work hard to clear and then others use exploits to beat the content without working hard.
The whole point in content being challenging is based on skill.Not who can find an exploit to beat it the easiest way.

I don't disagree. Hell, I even dislike the idea of Echo being implemented into extremes and savage fights at all. I should've clarified, I suppose.

My arguement was only ever that "It really isn't that bad for stuff you've seen and cleared a hundred times already."

Be that Sastasha, or The Vault, or the Creator.

[HyoMinPark]

They were quick to fix the Sigmascape 5 Savage bug were the Warrior could skip an entire phase for the party by instantly killing their ghost in their own car.

Did they fix this, because as far as I recall, it was never addressed as a bug or fixed, though I would have to read over the patch notes again to see if they mentioned anything about it. I don’t really think it was a “bug” either, per se. If the WAR failed to kill the ghost in basically 2~3 GCDs, the entire party died anyways. This particular bug is a blatant exploit of +50% increased damage for 15 seconds.

This is both still in the game, and a viable strategy that doesn't rely on using clearly unintended mechanics.

Plus it's easier to do with a RDM than a WAR.

Cosmic confirmed that the supposed “bug” is still there, which I agree, it isn’t a bug since the entire party is still punished if the WAR/RDM fail to nuke their Ghost in time anyways. No one is “punished” with this Squadron LB exploit, only buffed to the moon and back.

V5S would be an exploit if party members figured out a way to remove Throttle without having to even touch any of the ghosts. But, the RDM/WAR trick, as it stand now, is just a trick that rewards a group for speed (and damage), and punishes them if they aren’t fast enough in their attempt to ignore a mechanic.