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  1. #31
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    Brielle Artemus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Welcome to "Everything is gated", obsolete content edition.

    This would be every MSQ trial if we didn't have the roulettes.
    Slightly off-topic, but this is one of the few things about this game that I'm not liking. Having to grind through 100+ MSQ quests after defeating the Ultima Weapon before I can start HW. Sort of weird and off-putting.

    I know there's jump potions, but I feel like I should experience the story before moving on, since some of it sets up Heavensward.
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  2. #32
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Slightly off-topic, but this is one of the few things about this game that I'm not liking. Having to grind through 100+ MSQ quests after defeating the Ultima Weapon before I can start HW. Sort of weird and off-putting.

    I know there's jump potions, but I feel like I should experience the story before moving on, since some of it sets up Heavensward.
    It's frustrating when recruiting a new player, because ARR is the game at it's worst in a lot of ways. Saying "just slog through this until Heavensward when the awesome starts" is kinda rough.
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  3. #33
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    I got an alt through Deltascape fine... with a catch. There was this 5 man premade party that I got matched with for every single instance. Reminds me back when I started in 3.2 and was queueing for Gordias. I think Arm of the Father exceeded half an hour. Furthermore a few days ago (night time though) I queued for Kugane castle (as a healer) and after half an hour it still didn't pop. There's just little incentive to queue for older dungeons, especially older dungeons part of a roulette that's less efficient for mendacity than expert.
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  4. #34
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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    Haha it is hard for me to believe there is actually 10 million people actively playing this game >_<
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    I would say they really need a roulette for Coil > Alexander > Omega but honestly most the people who would queue would fail horribly at Coil and it would cause all kinds of problems. These forums would be part facepalm, part hilarious though with the people having to face a synced Coil for the first time.

    I would say put up a pf for delta 1-4, with the bonus and what not you may get ppls to help.
    not sure why they didnt do that in the first place. later in the week I usually see plenty of deltascape groups in PF once everyone has done their sigma clears for the week.
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  6. #36
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    I would say they really need a roulette for Coil > Alexander > Omega but honestly most the people who would queue would fail horribly at Coil and it would cause all kinds of problems. These forums would be part facepalm, part hilarious though with the people having to face a synced Coil for the first time.

    I would say put up a pf for delta 1-4, with the bonus and what not you may get ppls to help.
    Just omit Coil from the roulette or nerf them. While nice, Coil doesn't have any real value anymore except story. Deltascape, meanwhile, is required to unlock Sigmascape. If there were a raid roulette, this would help queue times immensely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Slightly off-topic, but this is one of the few things about this game that I'm not liking. Having to grind through 100+ MSQ quests after defeating the Ultima Weapon before I can start HW. Sort of weird and off-putting.

    I know there's jump potions, but I feel like I should experience the story before moving on, since some of it sets up Heavensward.
    It's definitely a poor design choice they have unfortunately clung to. While it was okay leading towards Heavensward, the fact we have what essentially amounts to three games worth of story before touching endgame makes it feel like a mountain to climb.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 02-28-2018 at 06:20 AM.

  7. #37
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Canopia View Post
    not sure why they didnt do that in the first place. later in the week I usually see plenty of deltascape groups in PF once everyone has done their sigma clears for the week.
    It wouldnt work.While there are some mentors willing to help most leave ex roulettes as soon as they load in mentor roulette.People would just leave fast in raid roulette too if they didnt get an easy one.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    It wouldnt work.While there are some mentors willing to help most leave ex roulettes as soon as they load in mentor roulette.People would just leave fast in raid roulette too if they didnt get an easy one.
    And yet Alliance roulette doesn't have any problems. All the old raids are easy nowadays. Even going back to Deltascape with 340ish gear, you'll smoke everything. Alex? It's an utter joke. Personally, I beg for Weeping City and Dun Scaith whenever I do Alliance because I'm sick to death of Braindead of the Ancients.
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  9. #39
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    And yet Alliance roulette doesn't have any problems. All the old raids are easy nowadays. Even going back to Deltascape with 340ish gear, you'll smoke everything. Alex? It's an utter joke. Personally, I beg for Weeping City and Dun Scaith whenever I do Alliance because I'm sick to death of Braindead of the Ancients.
    ^ This. By far the hardest thing Alliance roulette right now is Rabanastre, followed by staying awake in Labyrinth.

    A raid roulette would be fine. for helping people get caught up on stuff like Deltascape.
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  10. #40
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    Malzian's Avatar
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    Kylrin Arresard
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    10 million players may have played the game but 9.5 million of them have quit.

    (Looking at lodestone sweep data at least)

    There's a reason so many people say this game has a huge player retention problem. Because even if so many players come and try. Not that many actually stick around. The game really isn't that good.

    Most of my friends only really stay subbed just so we can joke around together. When we ain't playing together we basically don't play cos the game itself isn't that great
    Looking at you character profile, they amount of jobs you have at 60 or higher, I question the sincerity of the statement that the game isn't that good. I know the time it takes to get to that point and you don't get there by playing a game you think "isn't that good."

    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    There is 550 000 active characters world wide.

    https://ffxivcensus.com/
    The website you reference is known for being rather inaccurate in its numbers, plus the idea that you're only active if you've claimed a certain mount in the story is a rather arbitrary cutoff point, there are play who do play the game who really don't care about the story and progress it only enough to gather and craft in the new zones (which you can completely do without claiming the Vol mount).

    To the OP- For argument's sake, however, let's say that this site is accurate. Even if you did have 10 million active Worldwide players, you're still carving that up by region and then by datacenter. Looking at the US numbers you have approximately 6 million registered players. Divide that in half since we have 2 DCs that can't queue with each other, take 10% as a conservative estimate of RMT bots and you're left with 2.7 million in a single DC.

    Now you have to consider 3 things: 1) what percentage of people are at the point of doing that content (if we say 50% you're looking at 1.35 million). 2) How many are playing tanks and healers (lets just say 40% as that's the ratio of tank/healer jobs to DPS jobs, that's 540k). 3) Probably a big indication here, but how many of these people are on a 8:30am EST on a Tuesday running O1N and not getting ready to go to work or school???

    Out of an approximate 540k people that are on your DC (if we use my calculations and assumptions from above on the registered and not the "active" count) should you expect to be online running outdated content on a work/school day in non-primetime hours? Honestly, it's not shocking at all when you take it all in consideration, most especially the time of day you're trying to run the content.
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    Last edited by Malzian; 02-28-2018 at 07:03 AM.
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