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  1. #14611
    Player
    Anarnee's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SavageCipher View Post
    Was healing WP on hard, and was doing lovely (I love healing as a Scholar)....got to the end boss who has probably the easiest Doom avoidance mechanic ever (turn away from him when he's casting it). Apparently the sole dps with multiple lvl 70's didn't know this, and was angry I ignored him to heal the tank. #Shrug...triage order; Tank > Dps with rez > Dps.
    So because of all the attention this has gathered, and because I was genuinely curious, I went into Wanderer's Palace hard mode to test this. Solo unsynced. I'll happily go in with a full party to test it too if you want more proof.

    But for now it seems you're wrong.

    I did multiple tests, and I'll upload the video if you like, but turning away does not stop doom from hitting. The only way that doom seems to not cast is if you have a AST or SCH shield on the target and they take no damage from the Soul Douse cast. Either way it's the healers responsibility.

    I've been playing since those dungeons were released and I've never seen any theory that you could turn away from that, but feel free to link proof of those videos of people turning away to avoid it.

    I can't think of any look-away mechanics that do not have the gaze marker. Honestly it makes no sense. The only clue we even get for that mechanic is if you heal the person it a message in chat pops "HP is full. The death sentence has been lifed!"

    Edit: Someone else has already uploaded their proof, but I will happily add mine too if I need to lol
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  2. #14612
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    ErryK's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Ethan Vayne
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SavageCipher View Post
    False.

    Said mechanic can be dodged by everyone, plenty of youtube vids for you to look through (though knowing forum behavior, you won't). DPS doesn't have a right to get mad, a damage carry should always be quiet. Especially when everyone else was listening and acted accordingly.
    Quote Originally Posted by SavageCipher View Post
    Might want to do your research there buddy, it can be avoided by everyone if timed correctly. Plenty of videos on this already...do your research before blindly replying to my posts.
    That tone, ouch.

    Who hurt you?
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  3. #14613
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    Madeen_Est's Avatar
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    Character
    Nelly Allen
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    Spriggan
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SavageCipher View Post
    Might want to do your research there buddy, it can be avoided by everyone if timed correctly. Plenty of videos on this already...do your research before blindly replying to my posts.
    I think you watched the wrong guide then
    please try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urr7...4Jv57XiVFLoyrx

    I also crop this from the video for you.
    (7)

  4. #14614
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    Have it tanked near edge and have the healer stand relatively close behind the boss. The knockback doesn't knock you so far that you'd fall off.
    We did try that however, the healer refused to stand close to the boss, so we tried to solider on. Felt like shit giving the man the boot, but a group can only try so much short from controlling the character for them not sure what else we could have done.

    Honestly was a shock though since I never experienced something like that before, I read the tales in novice network but never experienced first hand.
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    Last edited by Awha; 02-27-2018 at 05:28 PM.

  5. #14615
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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    We did try that however, the healer refused to stand close to the boss, so we tried to solider on. Felt like shit giving the man the boot, but a group can only try so much short from controlling the character for them not sure what else we could have done.
    "Stand right on his butt and he cant throw you far enough to fall off. After that we'll win no problem." Something like that. Or the one that i used when learning it as BLM, "Start dodging that attack the second the line shows up on the map, otherwise server lag will hit you every time. Dont finish casting that spell, just run. You can start casting again once youre safe." If that level of encouragement isnt enough, they either need much more practice to feel comfortable... or they might require a carry to pass titan. Either as a DPS dead on the ground(which im not too proud to admit has been me once or twice in the past - ive worked on this and am better now), or an unsync where them being there doesnt affect the outcome of the fight.
    (1)

  6. #14616
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    Kakiko's Avatar
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    Halo Kitty
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    Midgardsormr
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SavageCipher View Post
    DPS doesn't have a right to get mad, a damage carry should always be quiet.
    DPS does have a right to get mad when the healer is arrogantly and ignorantly messing up. Jesus.
    (20)
    Canadian, eh!
    "When someone told me I live in a fantasy land, I nearly fell off my unicorn"

  7. #14617
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SavageCipher View Post
    False.

    Said mechanic can be dodged by everyone, plenty of youtube vids for you to look through (though knowing forum behavior, you won't). DPS doesn't have a right to get mad, a damage carry should always be quiet. Especially when everyone else was listening and acted accordingly.
    My forum behavior of doing...What? Honestly curious.
    (1)

  8. #14618
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SavageCipher View Post
    False.

    Said mechanic can be dodged by everyone, plenty of youtube vids for you to look through (though knowing forum behavior, you won't). DPS doesn't have a right to get mad, a damage carry should always be quiet. Especially when everyone else was listening and acted accordingly.
    Man it"s gotta be super embarrassing to be both this wrong and also so rude about it. Soul Douse is only avoidable if the target is shielded enough to not take damage from the attack at all. Otherwise the doom is removed by the target being healed up to full.
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  9. #14619
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    Unscene's Avatar
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    Arya Noone
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I brought some marshmallows for the roasting y'all are providing.

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  10. #14620
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SavageCipher View Post
    Might want to do your research there buddy
    Ever notice how everyone who says this never has the slightest clue of what they're talking about? It's like Eorzea's version of an antivaxxer. "Don't listen to big healer, you can cure Doom with organic rock salt, raw dravanian spring water, and not looking directly at the boss!"
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