Surprisingly, The outdated MMO is WOW, not FFXI/XIV1.2

[Lokier]

Sadly I think the "old" MMOs of yesteryear (Everquest, XI, even vanilla WoW) are not going to be made again.

I dunno if this was said to you or not (so forgive me) but Vanilla wow was confirmed to be re-released in the next 2-3 years. So it will make a... kinda? come back??

[Maeka]

I dunno if this was said to you or not (so forgive me) but Vanilla wow was confirmed to be re-released in the next 2-3 years. So it will make a... kinda? come back??

I still think that's a bit of a LOL or "Told you So" on Blizz's part. I think they are ONLY doing that to shut the vocal minority up, and it probably won't last all that long.

When people fire that up and see how bad the Vanilla world really was compared to Live, they'll get tired of it and leave. There'll be a few diehards, but back in Vanilla you needed a stinking group to do dang near anything, even some normal quests that had terrible rewards.

And without a group, you're sunk.

[Lokier]

I still think that's a bit of a LOL or "Told you So" on Blizz's part. I think they are ONLY doing that to shut the vocal minority up, and it probably won't last all that long.

When people fire that up and see how bad the Vanilla world really was compared to Live, they'll get tired of it and leave. There'll be a few diehards, but back in Vanilla you needed a stinking group to do dang near anything, even some normal quests that had terrible rewards.

And without a group, you're sunk.

Oh no, I REMEMBER vanilla wow. I played that shit to death back when WoW was first released. I know for a fact these people will play it for five seconds and LOATH the mofo thing. I will literally only play it for maybe a month to re-live the old hunter pet system and then quit. I didn't like raiding with 40 people, I didn't like spending months grinding minimal rep off of like 16-20 mobs everyone else is trying to kill.

[Maeka]

Oh no, I REMEMBER vanilla wow. I played that shit to death back when WoW was first released. I know for a fact these people will play it for five seconds and LOATH the mofo thing. I will literally only play it for maybe a month to re-live the old hunter pet system and then quit. I didn't like raiding with 40 people, I didn't like spending months grinding minimal rep off of like 16-20 mobs everyone else is trying to kill.

I was more referring to the people who will swear up and down that today's WoW is just horrible compared to how "awesome" WoW was back during Vanilla, lol.

[Lokier]

I was more referring to the people who will swear up and down that today's WoW is just horrible compared to how "awesome" WoW was back during Vanilla, lol.

That too tbh...

[Zojha]

[...], but back in Vanilla you needed a stinking group to do dang near anything, even some normal quests that had terrible rewards.

The only thing I can remember requiring a group for were elite quests and dungeons, with the prior usually having fairly decent rewards. Hunters could also do some of the elite quests solo. I also remember soloing a dungeon once, but I'm not sure if that was still classic or already BC/WotLK.

Personally, I'll probably check out their classic server when it comes online solely to remind myself just how bad it really was. The classic forums are already pretty fun to read, what with people arguing what constitutes as "vanilla" and what not.

[Shurrikhan]

I still think that's a bit of a LOL or "Told you So" on Blizz's part. I think they are ONLY doing that to shut the vocal minority up, and it probably won't last all that long.

When people fire that up and see how bad the Vanilla world really was compared to Live, they'll get tired of it and leave. There'll be a few diehards, but back in Vanilla you needed a stinking group to do dang near anything, even some normal quests that had terrible rewards.

And without a group, you're sunk.

Yep, the moment they said it was going to be a pure copy-over, I couldn't see it as anything more than a community-tailoring project. Vanilla WoW was fun in its time, don't get me wrong, but it was far from perfect and some of the areas of improvements possible (not even broad scope or the like, but simply polish to the maths to make given internal balance benchmarks work as intented) were readily obvious.

Ignoring them for a "pure" rather than "as intended" experience does not bode well for any intent to last.

[Maeka]

Ignoring them for a "pure" rather than "as intended" experience does not bode well for any intent to last.

But then again, if it ain't "pure" then it ain't "vanilla" and there will be purists out there whining about it AND you'll have people on Live servers who (perhaps rightfully?) will point fingers at them and say "see, you didn't really want Vanilla, you just want partial vanilla!" lol.

The vanilla purists can't win no matter what they do. Which is why *being* a vanilla purist is silly.

[Shurrikhan]

But then again, if it ain't "pure" then it ain't "vanilla" and there will be purists out there whining about it AND you'll have people on Live servers who (perhaps rightfully?) will point fingers at them and say "see, you didn't really want Vanilla, you just want partial vanilla!" lol.

The vanilla purists can't win no matter what they do. Which is why *being* a vanilla purist is silly.

Precisely. v.v

I love the feeling of a game that hasn't yet been twisted and spread in various directions, retucks, and face-lifts, but actually sticks cohesively to an original vision (because it hasn't yet been forced to proceed arbitrarily from there, breaking up the balance of the game's focuses that once made it what it was).

That cohesion was left unpolished in Vanilla/Classic WoW, though, which is why I won't be bothering with it save perhaps for a brief time with friends when quite bored. Had they said "if we're doing this, we're doing it right", on the other hand, as a project of earnest effort, I'd probably jump on that long enough to level cap a character or two. ...Which would be quite some time.

[TaleraRistain]

I dunno if this was said to you or not (so forgive me) but Vanilla wow was confirmed to be re-released in the next 2-3 years. So it will make a... kinda? come back??

Like EQ's legacy servers. I think it'll end up the same, too. You'll have the diehards that trickle onto it, but ultimately they will be abandoned. Because people really *don't* want that experience back again. They want some of the new shinies and they want one or two of the old things, but that's not what you get on a legacy server.