Plz do something about the multiplot owners

[AriaFairchild]

Aww comon Rinuko there is more loops in the system than there is in a box of Cheerios.

Loops? The one that says "not thinking about the future generation who will come to inherit the land"? Or the one that says "mah feelings"?

Is going to the plot and clicking buy jumping loops now?

[QueenSophie]

No ignorance was thinking the plots were all theirs

Well, they are, because they bought them......thats not ignorance, thats a fact. Any other player at any time could've gotten them. They didnt bend any rules, or do anything that other players weren't capable of.

[ManuelBravo]

And now they can't. At least, not as easily. So, offering a full refund allows those who bought multiple plots with the intention to flip (which would be an egregious act against the ToS, by the way) to at least recoup their cost. It's a very generous offer, considering that house-flippers were profiteers, in my opinion, and should have never have been allowed to get away with their unethical conduct in the first place.

And you'd deign to criticse others for feeling entitled to having a fair shot at a plot of their own? Why should an FC's desire to corner a ward for their own members outweigh the right of other players to get a home?

Not sure if your familiar with the business world, so allow me to enlighten you a bit.

The whole purpose of a business is to make money. Breaking even is nice however not when the potential client KNOWS they are being underestimated.

Take this as an example; the market board.

Craftsman compete to sale their wares, lowering values ect. Just as consumers look for the best deals. Buy Low SELL HIGH is the golden rule for craftsman as well as consumer.

Same thing happens with housing. FC's have a huge loophole which is actually fair in this game. Alternates before just needed to have players be in an FC to get permit status and others can leave after, so yes players were able to buy plenty of homes that way with alternates then sell them by transferring ownership. So as a business man / Craftsman why settle to break even. SE is no fool an knows it's a big slap in the face for those of us that took the time to make gill, camp plots, and actually took advantage of the system in a fair way.

While we may no longer be able to do this we have the choice to still make profits this way. Don't worry though in time people will have payment failures, or have to take time off and eventually will lose those properties.

I understand people feel they should get a trophy for trying now a days, the reality is that everyone has had the same opportunity and no one is above others. We all pay membership fees, that you feel everyone should get a home for just trying is nice in a perfect world, yeah not likely. By the way how is buying multiple plots a violation of terms of use? If that where the case don't you think SE would have already canceled those accounts with multiple plots? So before you go all out at the very least READ the terms of use properly. Also not sure if you know this, housing is an optional type of content that does not interfere with game play. ( Main story ect ) Not to sound negative you should at least try to understand how it works. People being lazy is only an excuse. IF they really wanted it or even considered the options on how to get it ( FC convert to personal after purchased as FC) they would of done so.

[QueenSophie]

And now they can't. At least, not as easily. So, offering a full refund allows those who bought multiple plots with the intention to flip (which would be an egregious act against the ToS, by the way) to at least recoup their cost. It's a very generous offer, considering that house-flippers were profiteers, in my opinion, and should have never have been allowed to get away with their unethical conduct in the first place.


And you'd deign to criticse others for feeling entitled to having a fair shot at a plot of their own? Why should an FC's desire to corner a ward for their own members outweigh the right of other players to get a home?

Because they wanted it and did it. if other people really "wanted" the plots, they wouldve gotten off their butts and grabbed one. No one cared about owning one until they weren't available. Only reason people want them now is because they cant have them. hundreds available in the past whether always empty or because of auto demo. Put the work and time in like others and quit complining for not getting a house handed to you. I started 4 months ago and got 4 houses all through different accounts Crap or get off the pot.

[Crysten]

The entitlement shown from some people is stupid, almost as much as that one Youtuber that pulled a "Leave Britney alone!" sob schtick over lack of housing in-game. Jesus wept.

I sure love how many of the ideas in this thread involve not increasing the number of wards, allowing players to upgrade their plots or implementing instanced housing (you know, positive things!) but instead are basically "What's the best way for me to shaft a player that already owns property without sounding like a colossal bellend?"

The generalization that everyone who owns a house is evil and deserves to be punished for it just because you didn't get one or you don't want a house enough to go to the Goblet is getting old.

Yeah, those guys on Mateus and Entropy will forever exist, but stop tarring everyone else with the same brush.

[ko_]

Well, they are, because they bought them......thats not ignorance, thats a fact. Any other player at any time could've gotten them. They didnt bend any rules, or do anything that other players weren't capable of.

While they didn't break rules was it really right to buy so many? I can understand people being pissed at that cause really? THey do not need a ward for 2 people. I don't care how much "work" you put into it. It's greedy. Now am I saying others aren't wrong for not buying them? No. But that doesn't make those two people fair either. THey are greedy.

[ManuelBravo]

While they didn't break rules was it really right to buy so many? I can understand people being pissed at that cause really? THey do not need a ward for 2 people. I don't care how much "work" you put into it. It's greedy. Now am I saying others aren't wrong for not buying them? No. But that doesn't make those two people fair either. THey are greedy.

Welcome to real life and the business world. It's not a matter of being greedy, its a matter of making Gill. Some people are just smarter than others and think outside the box.

[Rokke]

Welcome to real life and the business world. It's not a matter of being greedy, its a matter of making Gill. Some people are just smarter than others and think outside the box.

To go out of your way to say its not greedy is funny. Its both. It always has been both. They were smart and greedy enough to buy out an incredibly limited resource to make profit off of.

[Erza_Scarlets]

It's pretty simple the system was flawed yes, but those people with more houses were fully aware they were abusing and exploiting the system to get more houses with alts and more fcs. Just becuase a system is flawed doesn't mean you should exploit or abuse it. If they decide to change it in the future and take away your extra houses the only fault lies with you for exploiting/abusing the flawed system. Doesn't matter if you spent a lot of time and gil on them. It clearly wasn't designed for one or two people to buy a whole bunch of houses. The fact that you had to use more fcs and alts to do it just shows that. If they really intended to have people buy as many houses as they want they would have let you on your main character. It all comes down to people thinking its ok to abuse/exploit a flawed system and then think nothing will happen if se decides to fix it and change the way it works. So if people end up losing their mountain of houses, they can blame themselves.

[Anarnee]

Even if it's "greedy" by the definition. "having or showing an intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth or power."

They didn't do anything wrong. If it were a matter of everyone NEEDING a house to survive, then maybe they should feel bad, but no one needs a virtual house. This is 100% in SE's court. They need to fix the things that are broken and not working instead of putting on these bandaids.

Most of their answers to a lot of the long time problems of this game completely miss the mark.

Limit housing per account, but then don't make houses usable cross character. Continue to just add houses instead of investing in a system that could actually provide it to every player character.

Make a "new glamour system" that is basically the same as the old in bulk.

Instead of making meaningful changes to the MS dungeons forcing everyone to sit through 30 mins of cut scenes. (And don't get me started about how people have found a way around it either.) EVEN if you're running it on an alt, and you want to unsync it quickly, nope, you gotta watch the CS.

That is only in this last patch.

Like I love FFXIV and the team, but sometimes they miss the mark, and I don't think that players should be blamed for the faults in a broken system. Especially before 4.2 it was not abusing or exploiting, there were NO RULES set in place that said you could not have a house with an alt.

We were promised separate different housing as personal housing, and years later the only semblance of that is apartments that are the equivalent of one floor of a small house.