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  1. #141
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    The only problem with this system is that it wasn't implemented sooner, Square really should have had the foresight to see this happening when they implemented housing but hey ho, at least its here now and it seems to have solved a lot of problems (outside of some FC's making shells to take up more houses)
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  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird1 View Post
    if enough people voice they're disapporval of the multi plot owners SE will step up to remove ownership from people with multi homes let them pick one private home and an fc home if they are leader then remove the rest so others can buy a place for fc or private home use
    No they won't. There was outrage that caught gaming media attention for the situation on Mateus with an entire ward nearly being bought out by two players and Square didn't really do anything about them. The current system is a step in the right direction, but I highly doubt that they'll force players to chose a home out of all the ones they own on a world. Especially now that a lot of the housing issues that existed in the past for players who wanted a home have started dying down (i.e. players actually being able to still get a private house today, weeks after they were added)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird1 View Post
    if enough people voice they're disapporval of the multi plot owners SE will step up to remove ownership from people with multi homes let them pick one private home and an fc home if they are leader then remove the rest so others can buy a place for fc or private home use
    Yeah, that's not going to happen. Especially not with the multitude of servers that still have plots available after the recent changes. There is no benefit to punishing their players who didn't break any of their established rules when they purchased those multiple plots when the solution they have implemented is very obviously positively affecting the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird1 View Post
    if enough people voice they're disapporval of the multi plot owners SE will step up to remove ownership from people with multi homes let them pick one private home and an fc home if they are leader then remove the rest so others can buy a place for fc or private home use


    It not in the realm of impossibility that SE will remove them as it stated in TOS they may do what F they want. However like TaleraRistain states, it very unlikely as there is plenty of houses still available on most server.

    Just looking at my own server there was at 6pm GMT still 3 larges, 10+ mediums and idk how many 20-30 or more smalls in Goblet (also bunch smalls in Lavender, didn't look in the other areas)



    Quote Originally Posted by Derceto View Post
    This would work fine as an incremental penalty.

    One plot on your account? No penalty. More than one plot? You get taxed exponentially for each additional house on your account.

    Think of it as "luxury tax". You can have those 16 plots, but you're pay for them.

    The tolerance people have for the trash of this community is indeed, a core part of the problem. You don't tolerate extortionists and scalpers in real life, so why would you anywhere else?

    The fact the devs were too blind to foresee this problem, and "didn't have rules in place, so "technically" these people didn't break any rules", doesn't validate the action of being a piece of garbage trying to exploit loopholes.
    I want to for the record say a "tax" is probably the most stupid, unnecessary thing they could add to the game.

    Who and how would that help current situation? Most multi-owners if not all are wealthy players so paying a "tax" isn't going to make them relinquish they plots.

    I'm with the group of people believing no rule was broken and hence no penalty shall be put on these people. I was a multi-owner up to 4.2 but since I knew i wanted a large personal house i gave my small away to a friend and upgraded my medium.

    Even if I still had multiple plots and you hit me with a "tax" that wouldn't be a problem to someone like me, a omnicrafter with plenty Gil to spend on nothing in this game - it is fun to see the amount go up though i admit.


    Quote Originally Posted by LastFireAce View Post
    How about we leave thos who own multiple house alone? Just like populated server who currently lock...
    They can only go down.
    Btw I just own 1 mid.
    I totally agree with you. But this community likes to pick on certain groups and are very quick on grabbing those pitchforks. Just take a look on Reddit.
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  5. #145
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    I don't foresee how they can fix the housing issues, I don't think it is even possible at all. All they can do is increase the number of houses and wards, which is exactly what they have done this patch, was it enough probably not, the ghost fc's, flippers still will and continue to get away with things since there were no rules in the beginning which governed the way housing is done. Simply put as someone told me, to live with it and get what you can get even if it is not something you like, like me I bought a goblet house it is terrible all I see is a wall nothing more. but it might be easier to relocate at a later stage. Other than that its broken system and cant be fixed without actually removing all houses and redoing the system.
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    I have a private house and my alt also has a private house. If they would allow estate sharing with your alts - I would relinquish one of the houses. I believe a lot of people would do the same.
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    I don't think multiplot owners should be punished like that... I mean, they broke no rules at the time, had to earn enough money and compete for the plots just the same as others. If anything could make them relinquish plots, I guess it would be a refund (especially in case of the people who bought with the intention of selling it later, given how hard it probably is to sell it now with the random timer) and house sharing with alts like mentioned above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoOfEleven View Post
    I don't think multiplot owners should be punished like that... I mean, they broke no rules at the time, had to earn enough money and compete for the plots just the same as others. If anything could make them relinquish plots, I guess it would be a refund (especially in case of the people who bought with the intention of selling it later, given how hard it probably is to sell it now with the random timer) and house sharing with alts like mentioned above.
    I kinda agree to your comment,when this was allowed in the beginning and there was no real system in place, and players took advantage of this it was SE who did not foresee or forecast that this could potentially be a risk. I think like most things in this game they underestimate the community in many fields, and now it has come back to bite them time and time again, and there is no foreseeable fix that they can do as some players will always try to find loopholes to get what they want no matter what. This the 2nd expansion and how many patches later and still there is no full prove action in place. O well time to move on and drop the subject i think
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  9. #149
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    I am of the opinion that multi-plot owners broke the spirit of the housing system, even if they didn't break any actual rules. So, it really doesn't sit well with me that future players aren't allowed to own multiple plots while older, legacy players can.

    Rather than "punishment", though, perhaps what's needed is an amnesty instead. Incentivise multi-plot owners to give up their extra plots. For example, offer a 100% refund on the maximum value of the plot, or maybe even higher than 100%, to help reccover the cost of furnishing.

    This should be entirely optional for multi-plot owners. This way, everyone potentially wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf View Post
    I am of the opinion that multi-plot owners broke the spirit of the housing system, even if they didn't break any actual rules. So, it really doesn't sit well with me that future players aren't allowed to own multiple plots while older, legacy players can.

    Rather than "punishment", though, perhaps what's needed is an amnesty instead. Incentivise multi-plot owners to give up their extra plots. For example, offer a 100% refund on the maximum value of the plot, or maybe even higher than 100%, to help reccover the cost of furnishing.

    This should be entirely optional for multi-plot owners. This way, everyone potentially wins.
    One problem from SE: They want it to be fair to everyone.
    So in theory it your own fault for not having enough gil, not as fast as someone else with clicks (im going to assume no one use bot programs or other 3rd party applications) or took the day off.
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