WAR's: Want SE to bring back Foresight, Fracture, Bloodbath, and Mercy Stroke ?

[whiskeybravo]

The Bloodbath nostalgia is real for me. It's original form would obviously be too OP with everything war has now, but spamming SC is simply not as satisfying as popping Berserk/Vengeance/Bloodbath while overpowering away and seeing nothing but a green column of self heals. I mean it was really the only thing to look forward to in dungeons! Least for me lol

I personally wouldn't mind have a dot back, though I understand the general disdain some have for them.

Nothing really to say about Foresight. But..

As Aana suggests, I think it'd be better to just make them new abilities with new names. And really, if we are looking ahead to 70>80 skills it's entirely possible we get the "essence" of one or more of these abilities. A low power fluff CD, new dot attack, etc etc (I don't know if we'd get another self heal or not, we already have a pretty good kit for that)

Oh, forgot Mercy Stroke. I'm not really sure why they got rid of this, other than maybe war being the only tank with a finisher move? or button bloat, I guess. I can kinda see why they took it away from melee dps, at least those which already had a finisher move of their own.

That being said, I wouldn't trade what we have now to get any of those things back.

[Claire_Pendragon]

I'd want to see Foresight return to DRK, with maybe a weaker version of blood bath attached to it lol.
They need more fluff CDs, and a way to help handle more physical damage intake. (paired with TBN should be able to handle physical TBs fine.)

For WAR, maybe mix a "weak" blood bath effect with Thrill of Battle. And it can be used as a filler fluff CD, when not being used for TBs or Upheaval.

[Wintersandman]

Please do not bring these back. I personally love warrior where it is at.

Mercy Stroke was most beneficial as a DPS boost during the last 20%. If anything I would like to see it added to DPS classes as an 'optional' action. We all know it wouldn't be optional at the end of the day XD.

[Kerwin]

I would love to have bloodbath back! It was a fantastic skill.

[kamenkuro]

Bloodbath plus Vengeance was always pretty damn nice. Now with Inner Release allowing the spamming of Steel Cyclone and Inner Beast the fact is that no Warrior will ever have any issues in a dungeon. Like, just SC and IR are enough for one pull, you can immediately go to the next if you can combine Bloodbath and Vengeance

[OmegaSinX]

No, no, and no.

These skills were bad, boring, outdated or all 3. Let the dead rest.

If you bring them back 'in a different form' then you aren't bringing them back. You are just making a new skill and giving it an old name. A new super awesome, fun, interesting skill? Of course I'd take whatever that would be. What kinda question is that?

Would you say Inner Release is boring? It's essentially a remake of Mighty Strikes from FFXIV 1.0. Almost all the skills in the game today are revamps of 1.0 skills.

1.0 launch abilities

http://www.final-fantasy-14.org/abilities/main

1.20 ability changes

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post476429

1.21 job abilities

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post580997

[OmegaSinX]

The Bloodbath nostalgia is real for me. Spamming SC is simply not as satisfying as popping Berserk/Vengeance/Bloodbath while overpowering away and seeing nothing but a green column of self-heals. I mean it was really the only thing to look forward to in dungeons! Least for me lol

I personally wouldn't mind have a dot back, though I understand the general disdain some have for them.

Agreed Bloodbath+Overpower+Berserk was fun as heck. I also always wondered why WAR doesn't have AOE dot but then I thought: I guess Vengeance is our AOE dot (sorta). As a person who also plays PLD, would it be too much to ask to get a Circle of Scorn like AOE dot for WAR ?

[Galgarion]

Foresight was trash tier, bloodbath isn't needed anymore, and mercy stroke was crazy hard to use skillfully. Fracture would be really cool if it were reworked to be a DOT applied by fell cleave.

[AncientCrystal]

DoTs are a waste of time for Tanks. Just another button....

[Claire_Pendragon]

DoTs are a waste of time for Tanks. Just another button....

Most abilities are.
Though the question is, "Are they fun to use?"
Which I tend to think DoTs are not fun to use in most cases.

The only exception, was Fracture, as I tried to get a Fracture off during my berserk window.

But, it was only "Barely" fun to do that, and more often than not, I'd have enjoyed the play style of DRK over WAR, and for DRK, scourge wasnt fun. It wasnt awful either, just filler, and felt like a waste of time.