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  1. #131
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    Outrage never stopped SE from doing things before lol but we will see.
    True they do want they want, i am moreso also looking at it from the viewpoint that we have enough dps for a few expansions. Healer and Tank should be next followed perhaps hybrid jobs of some sort
    And i rarely heal so Dancer as healer would most likely get me into healing rather then always mostly dps like i have always done
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    Last edited by Maero; 02-16-2018 at 10:38 PM.

  2. #132
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    Aimori Duciel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    True they do want they want, i am moreso also looking at it from the viewpoint that we have enough dps for a few expansions. Healer and Tank should be next followed perhaps hybrid jobs of some sort
    And i rarely heal so Dancer as healer would most likely get me into healing rather then always mostly dps like i have always done
    While I am curious what the new jobs will be. I am extremely worried.. Will they copy/paste existing kits onto newer jobs *Astro*.. How will they handle tanks, Will existing abilities be removed from older jobs to make newer jobs feel unique.

    A part of me honestly feels like we are only going to get 1 job per expansion from here on out.
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    Last edited by Jxnibbles; 02-16-2018 at 10:48 PM.

  3. #133
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    Joe Ultima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    True they do want they want, i am moreso also looking at it from the viewpoint that we have enough dps for a few expansions. Healer and Tank should be next followed perhaps hybrid jobs of some sort
    And i rarely heal so Dancer as healer would most likely get me into healing rather then always mostly dps like i have always done
    Considering the pattern of job releases I have no doubt whatsoever that we will not get a new Tank and/or Healer. Depending on how many jobs we get will determine which of those 2 isn't added, but if it's the same as HW we will still get another DPS. Only time will tell what we actually get though, and what SE does with it.
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    Guildmaster of Power With Numbers (PWN) on Coeurl in Aether.

  4. #134
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    Quote Originally Posted by XovanPrince View Post
    Could always just make them not able to use magic and give them machine alternatives. And yes i am including baring the classes that conflict. or it could be an escape garland prison colony or soemthing that brought back some trade secrets.
    no it was said while a fanfest that garlean can't use magic for the reason that it's like poison for them... then don't expect them to use magic from nowhere. that why they did develop magitek, for be able to bypass the trouble of magic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jxnibbles View Post
    While I am curious what the new jobs will be. I am extremely worried.. Will they copy/paste existing kits onto newer jobs *Astro*.. How will they handle tanks, Will existing abilities be removed from older jobs to make newer jobs feel unique.

    A part of me honestly feels like we are only going to get 1 job per expansion from here on out.
    they still have room for add new jobs, after all FF series have soo much jobs, plus we haven't seen yet the jobs that is special at FF14, but i'm like you, i think the add of a tank and healer is maybe the most complicate, simply because create a new unique tank and healer will be a true challenge.
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    Last edited by silentwindfr; 02-17-2018 at 12:03 AM.

  5. #135
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    Sora Burakku
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
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    I still don't think SE would give us "clone" jobs, but if they do they wouldn't be added as an advancement of an existing job. That would mean every other job would get an advancement too, and that is way too much to do and is like trying to replace every job we have.
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    You mean like they did with the classes when they made jobs back in 1.0? I realize they were trying to save the game back then and it would be a lot of work but wouldnt that be a hell of an expansion and content boost? nm, you are right, SE wont do it. It would require balancing, resources, and most importantly, effort. lol
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  6. #136
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    Sikah'to Tahqa
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    create a new unique tank and healer will be a true challenge.
    You keep on singing the same tune, while not giving any real argument regarding that. You want a new tank with unique mechanics and a unique personality ?

    Sure, let's call it tactician, let's give him a touch of Nym's lore, like "scholars were often dispatched with warriors from Nym to keep them alive, and sometimes, they got a tactician with them to ensure the battle went as it was supposed to", let's say he has roughly the DPS of the current DRK, so the least of the tank, but, he uses a club, or a staff, or whatever blunt. He has a raid wide shield, slightly inferior to that of the warrior (let's say same cooldown, but 8% of max HP as shield, and that's it), but his main advantage is the fact that it's able to boost physical damage, or magical damage, or have a mantra-like ability. Maybe he could have the "en" skill the RDM didn't get, whatever. You want him to have a special resource, like Rage, Blood, and so on ? Fine. He'll have, let's say, flow of battle, and when he gets enough of it, he can double his buffs for 10s, or instead cleanse all debuffs, or whatever.

    That's a new tank, and I thougt about it in the time it took me to write about it. It's basically a BRD for tanks. But you could get a BLM/SMN for tank, with no mobility and no party utility that puts DoTs on everyone, a SAM for tank (WAR 4.05, basically.), a NIN for tank (with mudra-like abilities to use different CDs with various effects), a RDM for tanks (basically a rune knight or mystic knight or whatever you guys call it), a MNK for tanks (no combo, but three skills you can chose from each step of the combo)... There are plenty of things to do, and it's much easier to create a new tank than to create a new DPS. I don't know for healers, though, as I don't play any, but don't go around telling random things just because you want another DPS x)
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    Last edited by ArcaviusGreyashe; 02-17-2018 at 12:28 AM.

  7. #137
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    Lord_Zlatan's Avatar
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Famfrit
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisB1985 View Post
    We need a polymorphic class that turns into demons and uses a flail for a weapon or maybe dual wielding maces lol
    Yes, we need a dual wielding class. Dual wielding clubs or axes would be preferrable.
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  8. #138
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    Gladiator Lv 52
    I'd really like to see the Gambler job added. Setzer was cool and the idea that you have to use cards as weapons was neat.
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  9. #139
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    Sora Burakku
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
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    I've come to think of the trinity like silverware. Tank, DPS, Healer are like a Fork Knife and Spoon (link them to whichever you want). you can make variations on the jobs but they always have to preform the same function, the spoon always has to scoop, fork needs to stab, and knife needs to cut. You can make the handle look different, gild it, reshape it, engrave it, lengthen it, you can make the business end different sizes, sharpness, can even change the shape a little but in the end the spoon still scoops, the knife still cuts, and the fork still stabs. Sure you can sorta cut with a fork, scoop with a knife, or cut with a spoon but thats not really the reason you have that utensil. If you really want something different, ask for chopsticks (Support).
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  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Sure you can sorta cut with a fork, scoop with a knife, or cut with a spoon but thats not really the reason you have that utensil. If you really want something different, ask for chopsticks (Support).
    Sure, but... what am I supposed to answer, here ? I just don't see why it would be easier to get a variety of DPS than a variety of tanks. I mean, if you want to go that way, why do we have so many DPSs ? Why even add jobs ?

    I don't ask for a hybrid job, I ask for tanks that can do, aside from their actual job, something else, like WAR can DPS a bit, and PLD can off-heal a bit... In my example, tactician can support a bit, that's all. That doesn't mean he'd be less of a tank, it's just obvious that a tank job will have CDs, some kind of holmgang, a tank stance, and so on... You know, tank players aren't just meat sacks, they might want to get a bit variety in their gameplay, too x)
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    Last edited by ArcaviusGreyashe; 02-17-2018 at 12:56 AM.

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