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    Karhad's Avatar
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    Karhad Ironsight
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    Shiva
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    Nothing changed, starting in fists oft fire, using perfect balance to stack greased lightning and avoiding Tornado kick as much as possible is still the most efficient way
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    Zael Magnus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karhad View Post
    Nothing changed, starting in fists oft fire, using perfect balance to stack greased lightning and avoiding Tornado kick as much as possible is still the most efficient way
    This. The only thing that has changed in the opener is that you want to weave in Brotherhood before FC considering that we benefit from the 5% now.

    Also, Tornado Kick > PB is always a DPS loss and not worth it under any circumstance.
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    Sage Mhasi
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karhad View Post
    Nothing changed, starting in fists oft fire, using perfect balance to stack greased lightning and avoiding Tornado kick as much as possible is still the most efficient way
    this is incorrect. the value of an OGCD generated stack of GL outweighs the downtime, so long as tornado kick is used right before a GL-generating GCD, meaning your downtime is a single stance sequence. the loss of DPS in that sequence is somewhere between 50 and 100 potency (depending on which skills you execute in that sequence), which is significantly less than the value gained off of the tornado kick (429 potency with GL3). Even considering the 5% loss on any GCDs executed during fist of wind and the 5% speed reduction from the lack of a GL stack, the net loss still falls far short of the net gain.

    Monks should be aiming to execute tornado kick once every 30 seconds, roughly, right before a GL-generating GCD, and using wind tackle A.S.A.P. If you use PB as a DPS ability (which it absolutely can be with the new cooldown), then you'd want to stagger PB to be 10 seconds after shoulder tackle, allowing for a grand total of 4 tornado kicks within every 90-second block of a straight fight. (note that even in wind stance, shoulder tackle goes on cooldown after the FIRST execution, as the second one, riddle of wind, is a different ability in the game's coding and doesn't share a cooldown with wind tackle)

    Taking all of this into account, the new opener is as follows (assuming optimal recast of 2.40) :

    http://ffxivrotations.com/1cnj
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    Last edited by FoodAspectedPrimal; 02-17-2018 at 03:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoodAspectedPrimal View Post
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    This is just so much wrong information in a single post lol.
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