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  1. #81
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    Joe777's Avatar
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    Joe Ultima
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    Coeurl
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    Rogue Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    I think what's being asked here isn't a class that pulls concepts from different jobs (which is traditionally what a RDM is) but a job that could actually exist and queue in two or more roles of the holy trinity here.

    Like, I can queue to leveling as a tank with this job, then turn around a act as a healer in trials.

    RDM's Vercure is powerful, but one good heal can't cover a savage raid party. RDM hasn't the VIT gear, nor any proper defensive cooldowns to tank one, either. RDM is just a caster DPS with a sword, not a proper hybrid.
    If that is the hybrid they had in mind then it's never going to happen. There are some cases where DPS can relieve a healer, namely with Vercure, Clemency, and Revival abilities, but making a job capable of pulling 2 or all 3 roles is just asking for too much. Even if SE did decide to do such a thing, it would be way too stretched out to be acknowledged by endgame meta, and making it potent enough to run endgame would make it OP. FF14 cares too much about the role trinity to just throw a screw like that into it.
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    Guildmaster of Power With Numbers (PWN) on Coeurl in Aether.

  2. #82
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    Fhaerron's Avatar
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    Fhaerron Kobayashi
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Necromancer and or Warlock.
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  3. #83
    Player Soge01's Avatar
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    1. Blue Mage

    2. Judge/Magitek Knight

    3. Dancer

    Any two out of three of these job classes I would love to see! ^^
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  4. #84
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    [...] but making a job capable of pulling 2 or all 3 roles is just asking for too much.
    Tanks and healers can viably replace DPS in all but the most hardcore content with the tightest DPS checks. At the end of HW, echo buff was enough to allow for an 8 tank A12S, 23 healer Rabanastre has been done while it was current. It's already a thing. It's just DPS that get gimped by not being allowed to double dip into tanking/healing much, but tanks and healers are already very much double dipping into DPS rather extensively.
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  5. #85
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Gun in one hand, sword in the other.
    Gunblade as an alternative.
    Rune Knight / Mystic Knight / something to fill the spellblade archetype without having a raise tacked on.
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  6. #86
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 80
    As far as Rune Fencer for tank...I mean sure if it'd fit I guess, but we already have two magic knight tanks (both DRK and PLD use plenty of magic and swords). I know for dps we already have RDM to fill the magic blade archetype...kind of...but I bring up the tank aspect because I'd rather have some variety in tank flavor. A blue mage tank would work better to set it apart from our current selection I feel.
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  7. #87
    Player Soge01's Avatar
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    A pure mage tank would be a fresh breath of air. Blue Mage would probably fill a tank role perfectly.

    Ooh, I'd love to see an actual muscian class like an Orchestrator job class for either tank or healing! Like it'd be a job class utilizing a conductor to control various floating instruments to either attack enemies, cause status buff to allies or debuffs to foes. Basically a strategy type job class that focuses on guiding the battle field into more favourable position.

    For Rune Knight, I had an idea a few weeks back that it could possibly be functiin similar to how FF5 Exdeath from Dissidia series fights. Creating elaborate powerful magical shields to defend friends and counter foes by weaving runes in the air with a magical blade that floats around you as if writing with pen and paper.

    A healing chemist based job class could combine the use of rapid fire gauntlets with syring vials attached to the wrists and waist or utilize a sniper rifle like Ana from Overwatch. I'd actually kind of want to see a sort of steampunk theme with this. ^^
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    Last edited by Soge01; 02-15-2018 at 10:07 PM.

  8. #88
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    @ Joe777, SE would never make Dancer a dps nor should they really. Their would be much outrage even from myself.
    We have more then enough dps jobs atm for a few expansions, next focus should be a tank and healer then after that who knows.
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  9. #89
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    DiscoDuck's Avatar
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    Character
    Eros Grehryss
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    What i'd like to see:

    Necromancer (What FF11 was supposed to get but Geomancer took its place)
    Beastmaster/Tamer
    Dancer (Lyse's outfit has gotta be hinting it and her h2h style)
    Blue Mage
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  10. #90
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Gun in one hand, sword in the other.
    Gunblade as an alternative.
    Rune Knight / Mystic Knight / something to fill the spellblade archetype without having a raise tacked on.
    I too would like a gun & sword wielding job, utilizing the offhand slot, or combined in the form of a gunblade.
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