What jobs are we hoping to see in the next expansion?

[Joe777]

Logically speaking, Dancer and Blue Mage are the most likely candidates. However, it would make the most sense that Dancer be DEX DPS and Blue Mage Caster DPS. Dancer would play a support DPS role much like Bard does (although not Ranged DPS, just Ranged Support) and Blue Mage will be a lot like Red Mage in that it can still have some healing (like White Wind) and maybe a defensive buff or 2 (Wouldn't hold my breath on Mighty Guard since that's a Limit Break, unless they rename it). Anything else is essentially just a clone of an existing job. Therefore, logic suggests that unless they go through with using more jobs that act a lot like others, we would get brand new jobs instead!

P.S. I still think Summoner should be re-worked into Necromancer, and then give us a real Summoner job. I'm quite certain it won't happen though, as it'd be better just to add Blue Mage first.

We need a class that uses hammers/clubs/something blunt. There's only one actual blunt class in game, yet we have many classes that use slashing/piercing. What's the point of a triangle of classes like that when it's like 4 slash, 3 piercing, 1 blunt

Technically there are a total of 5 blunt weapon users, but 4 of them can't deal any real damage with it.

I want that gathering job Yoshi mentioned that can get you furs and hides

I actually mentioned that awhile back myself. If Yoshi thought of it too then perhaps it might happen someday o.o

[kikix12]

However, it would make the most sense that Dancer be DEX DPS and Blue Mage Caster DPS.

Dancers actually are frequently non-DPS classes in games, offering low damage but high support, sometimes with a heal-over-time of sorts. In other Final Fantasy games, dancers had healing abilities. Support is closer to healing in a trinity game than DPS, so...yeah. Sorry, but that logic goes out of the window.

[Joe777]

Dancers actually are frequently non-DPS classes in games, offering low damage but high support, sometimes with a heal-over-time of sorts. In other Final Fantasy games, dancers had healing abilities. Support is closer to healing in a trinity game than DPS, so...yeah. Sorry, but that logic goes out of the window.

Also, White Wind is a Scholars lvl3 limit break, just like Mighty Guard is Paladins (I think?!).

You can't really apply that Dancer logic to FF14. To point, look at Dark Knight and Samurai. Look at how Ninja can't be an evasion tank. Look at how Summoner doesn't act a damn bit like it should.

My logic for Dancer is based on the simple fact that dancing is a graceful and agile artform, which relates to Dexterity, not to mention the fact that Bard is DPS and is renowned as a great support job too.

Also White Wind is not taken. You are thinking of the Lv1 Healer LB Healing Wind. Mighty Guard is Lv2 Tank LB btw.

[kikix12]

Also was not aware White Wind was taken too. Guess when Blue Mage comes SE has some LB renaming to do

Nah. I removed the White Wind. Healing Wind is limit break 1 for healers, and Angel's Feather is for scholars. That was my mistake from not playing scholar for a long time. I guess you responded to it right after I posted, keh.

Also, there is nothing really wrong with Dark Knight and Samurai depictions in Final Fantasy XIV. In pretty much all games I did play, samurais were at best a more buff damage dealer. In reality, Samurais as they are represented in this game were actually most accurate. Most samurais did not have heavy armor like the sort you think of.
And dark knight was always a class with high survivability due to self-healing and crippling of foes. I didn't even for a second think there is anything wrong with the tank depiction of it and the notion reached me only when I entered these forums, keh. It always seemed like it would fit either spot, really.

[Joe777]

Nah. I removed the White Wind. Healing Wind is limit break 1 for healers, and Angel's Feather is for scholars. That was my mistake from not playing scholar for a long time. I guess you responded to it right after I posted, keh.

I edited too so don't worry it's all good XD

[MilanFrozen]

Chemist is all I care about.

[Andevom]

DNC was never meant to be a tank though in FFXI (and this is actually confirmed by the development team itself, like NIN never was meant to be one either) - it was actually intended to be a healer/support Job (it did have a hate-generating Provoke-like 'Flourish' ability though, but that was more meant for when the Job was subbed, making it an excellent subjob for tanks like WAR).

The entire game was essentially played outside of the devs expectations. Intentional or not, XI showed it *is* possible for a DNC tank.

GEO is literally already CNJ though (besides CNJ already being GEO gameplay wise, lore wise geomancy is literally what conjury is called in the Far East, so it's redundant).

They could still make it work. I'm fairly convinced they can spin it like "Well yeah, but since they learned it *here*, it's different because of how they approach it." Kind of like how Red Mage just kind of amalgamated existing arts.

<stuff about gunblades>

Key point here: It's a Garlean weapon. Not exactly something the WoL or anyone associated with them would be trained with.

And what form would it take? We've seen both a sword-like gunblade and the pikeish gunblade. Garleans seem to throw guns on everything.

Jobs aren't supposed to be about the weapons. They're about the abilities. And what abilities would even distinguish a gunblade user? They're not more agile than a Ninja. They're not as defensive as a Paladin. They don't have any noticeable proficiency with magic. The point that seems to be missing here is that while a gunblade looks like a "cool weapon", the abilities of people wielding something simpler can outclass them because of their skills.

[Ametrine]

A tank job based on Nero's hammer-like weapon. Make him the teacher.

I think many of us want a Garlean class, and gunblade class, and a tank, so it's an easy conclusion to come to that SE would just roll them together. I think it's perfectly doable, especially looking at DRK being accepted despite not being the sacrificial HP damage dealer it traditionally is.

Besides, the Garlond Ironworks are RIGHT THERE.


As for GEO, Kyohoku also uses a unique model wand in the AST quests, with hints towards the wand/bell equipment of the job.

Also, they aren't just Asian White Mages. The whole reason Kyo came to Ishgard to study was the similarities seen in modern Sharlayan Astrology, which was being taught in Ishgard. The similarities even come down to the fact modern Geomancy is reduced to just one facet of the art (divining), just like it was for Ishgard's school of Astrology and the Dragon Star.

If they wanted us to think it was a CNJ-like job, Kyo coud've easily tossed out a line about being blocked out of Grid as a foreigner, but he never even considered them. Plus, his "give me a few summers and I have a school filled with Geomancers" line would go down as a mean spirited red herring if we never work with him again.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

FIXED JOBS! \o/

Serious answer: I expect a new tank/healer. Can't really say what specifically. Hammer tank? Some kind of puncher? Perhaps a Spear & Shield tank to offer piercing besides DRG?

And for healers, I know Dancer is the popular pick, and that's fine. I can't rightly think of another idea that fits a healing job. Could fulfill the melee healer concept with a "Chirugeon" knife/dagger/needle user/thrower, but I'm really reaching with that.

[KokoChibata]

1. Blue Mage
2. Dancer
3. Orator