Housing restrictions not fair for individuals.

[Ruf]

You aren't the first person to snap back with something about real life comparisons. I do not really appreciate you putting words in my mouth (the nuance of in-game content vs. actual real marriage counselling). It still holds that if every married couple in-game had to get a house for themselves it would effectively halve the number of available homes, causing much more shortage of available plots.

But I think your response is a perfect reflection of the way people get unnecessarily vicious over, as you noted, a game. I suppose if we had to highlight one subject, wouldn't love still be the same in or out of game? ;-)

The reasoning you are giving there would not even be anywhere needed if se actually added enough wards & houses, this is crap to claim a married couple shouldnt have two houses, heck give them 5, as long as everyone else is entitled as much rights, personally tho i wouldnt want that situation, 1house for a couple is plenty imo anyway but still.

[Elamys]

You aren't the first person to snap back with something about real life comparisons. I do not really appreciate you putting words in my mouth (the nuance of in-game content vs. actual real marriage counselling). It still holds that if every married couple in-game had to get a house for themselves it would effectively halve the number of available homes, causing much more shortage of available plots.

But I think your response is a perfect reflection of the way people get unnecessarily vicious over, as you noted, a game. I suppose if we had to highlight one subject, wouldn't love still be the same in or out of game? ;-)

But...it's true. Housing in this game shouldn't be so limited that two people who are married can't have their own virtual houses in a game world. Also, if Miste's response was "vicious" I think you need to reconsider the meaning of the term.

[Besame]

I have a med house that I shared with my hubby. Hubby inherited a small house from his alt's FC that bailed. He enjoys decorating his space as I do mine. We also have chars in another FC in a different location where we are co-leaders with a friend/owner . It's all good fun. Every player should have the option to get a house no matter what.

[Arazehl]

I've seen this sentiment expressed before and yet it continues to elude me - how does an FC benefit more from a medium or large plot than a small one?

Are you serious? An active FC (not talking about these small startup FC's, who have no intention of housing more than the initial 4 members) has more use for med to large plots than many private owners do. I walked by larges, that you don't see activity around them in months, only to enter them once every 45 day to keep from eviction. An"Active" FC like mine, we hold events, meetings and social affairs all the time, while many privately own larges are abandon for the most part, once decorated. The gardens haven't seen a plant in them for months. My FC could use the upgrade from a medium to a large far more then any privately own individual could. Like when we built our submarine the other day, lots of traffic, I must say, going in and out.

[Ruf]

Are you serious? An active FC (not talking about these small startup FC's, who have no intention of housing more than the initial 4 members) has more use for med to large plots than many private owners do. I walked by larges, that you don't see activity around them in months, only to enter them once every 45 day to keep from eviction. An"Active" FC like mine, we hold events, meetings and social affairs all the time, while many privately own larges are abandon for the most part, once decorated. The gardens haven't seen a plant in them for months. My FC could use the upgrade from a medium to a large far more then any privately own individual could. Like when we built our submarine the other day, lots of traffic, I must say, going in and out.

Yes Elamys is serious, keep your gardening & airship & submarine arguments away, everyone should get access to med & house if they can afford it, some individuals can garden just as much, no item should be more accessible to fc than individuals from that, specially as a lot of fc leaders even restrict access to members so. SERIOUS

[Elamys]

Are you serious? An active FC (not talking about these small startup FC's, who have no intention of housing more than the initial 4 members) has more use for med to large plots than many private owners do

But "more space" isn't really a valid reason for why mediums and larges should be restricted to an FC. A medium or large doesn't generate "more traffic," you would have had the same amount of people coming in and out for your submarine regardless of the size of your house. My FC just upgraded from a small to a medium and literally nothing has changed. So yes, I'm completely serious.

I own a personal medium, I use both garden slots. Why should I for some reason lose that because an FC will somehow get "more use" out of it? The only FC-restricted activity in houses, airships/submarines, is not affected by house size. And on my server, Balmung, a lot of personal house owners of any size plot use their houses to host RP events, some of which draw enormous crowds of people.

[Penthea]

It isn't really fair to treat couples as a single unit anyway. Just because some people are in a relationship doesn't mean they can't want their own personal house.

I'm okay with couples wanting separate houses. Different people have different tastes whether they're single or not. I just don't like how OP claims her husband is under great misfortune despite being among the lucky minority with access to housing. There are players who have had zero access to housing for years. These are the people the housing restrictions truly hurt. She'd have a better time getting SE's sympathies if she tried to represent them instead.

[k99]

It isn't really fair to treat couples as a single unit anyway. Just because some people are in a relationship doesn't mean they can't want their own personal house. You can't punish people just because they have a significant other.

... this is crap to claim a married couple shouldnt have two houses.

Housing in this game shouldn't be so limited that two people who are married can't have their own virtual houses in a game world.

Do you guys even read these posts? Or do you just jump the minute someone's response does not share your view or sympathize with you in general?

Because I am having a trying time identifying any mention, intent, or desire on my part for sanctions, punishments, actions or restrictions on players for being married or otherwise in my unedited posts. If you could be so kind as to identify it for me, it would be greatly appreciated.

[Ruf]

Do you guys even read these posts? Or do you just jump the minute someone's response does not share your view or sympathize with you in general?

Because I am having a trying time identifying any mention, intent, or desire on my part for sanctions, punishments, actions or restrictions on players for being married or otherwise in my unedited posts. If you could be so kind as to identify it for me, it would be greatly appreciated.

We posted sooo many times in this thread, & replyed to counter arguments on nearly every page & you say that? i think you are the one not reading, i do not believe this was appropriated to type what you did under Housing restrictions not fair for individuals. (a couple = two individuals)

[Elamys]

Do you guys even read these posts? Or do you just jump the minute someone's response does not share your view or sympathize with you in general?

Because I am having a trying time identifying any mention, intent, or desire on my part for sanctions, punishments, actions or restrictions on players for being married or otherwise in my unedited posts. If you could be so kind as to identify it for me, it would be greatly appreciated.

Are you kidding me? You responded to this thread ridiculing the fact that their husband wanted their own house.

lol Isn't marriage about compromise? Imagine if every married couple had to get two homes because they couldn't share. Maybe SE should add some marriage counselling content in the next patch to help address these first world housing problems.