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    ChrisB1985's Avatar
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    Summoner pet egi's are a disgrace to the job!

    These egi's are boring and they don't even look cool at best. They are weak and the concept of these pets needs to be changed to justify the job. Please square enix revitalize the final fantasy summoner the way its supposed to be.
    Using glamour as a cover all fix all isn't going to work its only going to be lame.
    Shiva casting inferno or earthen fury lol
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    Last edited by ChrisB1985; 02-14-2018 at 04:47 AM.

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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    But Carbuncle glam is all you need to achieve max dps!
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    He obviously doesn't know about Titan egi main tanking Ramuh Extreme. Haha.
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    Swygnebb Ahldhyltsyn
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisB1985 View Post
    These egi's are boring and they don't even look cool at best. They are weak and the concept of these pets needs to be changed to justify the job. Please square enix revitalize the final fantasy summoner the way its supposed to be.
    Using glamour as a cover all fix all isn't going to work its only going to be lame.
    /sigh

    Another day, another wannabe "summoner" that:

    A) hasn't leveled (let alone played) SMN to Lv.70 yet
    B) ignores/forgets about the "Trance" concept
    C) doesn't know that the whole "Egi" concept (and overall design choice) is backed up by this game/universe's lore
    D) doesn't understand that each Final Fantasy game is different, and making them work like pets is the most logical choice within the context of MMOs (just like in FF11)

    Look, I understand the need for more "summons" (especially considering we only have had Garuda-Egi / Titan-Egi / Ifrit-Egi around for years now), which is exactly why we're supposedly getting more "Egi glamours" further down the line.
    Which makes sense since we're already covered role-wise through the Caster (Summon) / Tank (Summon II) / Melee (Summon III) pets.

    Now whether we'll be getting these sooner rather than later, is another matter entirely.

    But you complaining about something that's been a foundation for the Summoner job since its introduction (all the way back in ARR/2.0) is just...stupid.
    It'd be like complaining about Scholars using fairies (and/or being healers) or Samurai not using heavy armor in this game.
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    Last edited by Exodus-E; 02-15-2018 at 05:39 AM. Reason: Minor edits

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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
    It'd be like complaining about Scholars using fairies (and/or being healers)
    OMG, I love you so much right now. That has always been my argument, it's not like Scholars have ever had fairies in past FF games. Every job in every game is different, and while it may of had some issues at the beginning. Summoner is in a good place.

    But please egi glamours and possible grand summon glamours... when.
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    Lina Kirell
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Wouldn't call it a disgust, but totally lacks the general FF SMN feel (by general I mean the most often used system) that was active from FF 1 to 9 though : a big magic attack.

    For instance I loved FF9 summons, and to me demi primals are WAY more like it AND can work in this game, see Bahamut. (cause I agree a big attack every 60 sec wouldn't work well in an MMO, but they found a way to put it, sorta, so please square more demi primals !)

    Also about the fairy : I 'm not complaining SMN has egis. I'm complaining it's ALL they've had for a long time, "give them a colored ball and call it a day". No. Where's my Tidal Wave, Inferno, Judgement Bolt, etc ?
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    Last edited by Karshan; 02-14-2018 at 03:03 AM.

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    Jace Ossura
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    Make Demi-Egis part of the animation for Aetherflow abilities. Ez.
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Monk Lv 100
    I would like SMN egis and SCH fairies to be reworked but it's a big thing to untangle which would eat up a lot of resources. I think the pets should be more integrated into the jobs like how demi bahamut is part of the main job rotation and requires no additional commands outside of that.
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    A different concept for the summoner job egi's. Please Read.

    I thought it would be interesting to see a concept of summoning in a different light.
    I enjoy the summoner's spells etc. So this only applies to the changing of egi's.

    Everyone wants a variety of egi's to be available and to do so summons could be a 30sec. or 1min duration. As the egi is present it fights using auto-atks/spells and assorted abilties as the egi is fixing to disspate it launches its ultimate move and then is gone, going out with a bang. No more enkindle to activate. Also as egi's are present they can generate a certain amount of enmity to draw aggro over the summoner regardless if caster/melee/tank type because after all a primal essence demands attention due to its powerful nature.
    With this concept you can add many different egi's without using glamour while having more types and visual abilties to make the job great. This would be more similar to the demi Bahamut style just more refined.
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    Last edited by ChrisB1985; 02-14-2018 at 06:08 AM.

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    A few examples could be:
    1. Moogle: casts heals and ultimate move is a light party wide heal
    2. Carbuncle: melee attacks and ultimate move is a party wide shield or def buff
    3. Ifrit: melee attacks, aoe burns and ultimate move would be the inferno
    So with this idea the combinations of pets could yield greater results and we could see all our favorite primals used in one way or another.
    This could also increase the usability of the class in parties.
    And to eliminate abuse of any sort you can't summon the same primal twice in a row.

    Also this concept allows the need and practice of summoning more egi's during battle with is the ultimate goal of a summoner!
    The last thing we want is a Shiva glamour over ifrit casting inferno lol.

    As for static pets i love the idea so lets use them for bringing back beast master with a whip or a mace for a weapon. It makes more since for tamed animals or famaliars to be static.
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    Last edited by ChrisB1985; 02-14-2018 at 04:23 AM.

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