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    Quote Originally Posted by MizArai View Post
    There is no way.
    Then show me your data that disproves my claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by MizArai View Post
    I gave you a real example of people having alts on friends list.
    Which I said should be removed.

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    then said people should be able to use houses to pass stuff to alts
    So they wouldn't need to create FCs to do this.

    [QUOTE=MizArai;4576967]except I have alts in multiple FCs, so to me, that's a super silly idea.[QUOTE=MizArai;4576967]

    Which means you're both part of the problem and incapable at looking at this objectively.

    Quote Originally Posted by MizArai View Post
    Especially when you consider that most people don't have access to most items in their FC's chest.
    Which is why we need another alternative for account wide storage.

    Quote Originally Posted by MizArai View Post
    I really don't understand how me saying 100-200 houses would be reclaimed and you translated that into 2-3 wards somehow turned into 8-12 wards worth of houses being added back in. There is no way there's 480-720 houses that would get reclaimed per server from people owning multiple houses. I know of 3 people with multiple houses. All of them have 2 personal houses. With housing being a huge interest of mine, I often talk to people about housing. If you assume that about 5% of homeowners have 2 houses, then you'd be reclaiming 216 houses with your no grandfathering take all the extra houses away stance.
    It's because you're being ambiguous with your numbers and I called you out on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MizArai View Post
    Instanced housing would actually help a lot, since it would only put a load on the server when people were inside the instance of the house.
    No it won't, not on a massive scale. You're trading additional space in server memory for increased server I/O... which can lead to other issues. Downside of server design.

    Quote Originally Posted by MizArai View Post
    Um, look at your equation. You did 4*18 because there are 18 WARDS in each district, so we're at 18 wards. My math is fine. Thanks for proving that you just want to fight though. If you must see my math though here goes:
    Four neighborhoods, 18 wards each, a total of 72 wards.

    Whoever said we needed to add wards to ALL housing neighbor hoods at the same time?

    If a neighborhood isn't as popular as the others... why add more space to it that's not going to get used?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    If a neighborhood isn't as popular as the others... why add more space to it that's not going to get used?
    And why focus on one housing area? A house of any size in any ward is of equal worthvalue, not of equal valueinterest. Don't confuse these please.
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    Last edited by Mahrze; 02-13-2018 at 07:17 AM. Reason: I did the dumb on my English. #ForeignerProblems
    If you say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    And why focus on one housing area? A house of any size in any ward is of equal value, not of equal interest. Don't confuse these please.
    While i agree that all areas need same amount of wards, i disagree to say that any size in any ward is equal value, thats what we want but its not the case... (ie: plots houses facing bad & ugly directions & limited land size, not to say ressources of mediums & larges houses,,, but fact is, without a dumb restriction that bane most of everybody everyone could build a mansion if they did/do put enough efforts in it) 109/10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    While i agree that all areas need same amount of wards, i disagree to say that any size in any ward is equal value, thats what we want but its not the case... (ie: plots houses facing bad & ugly directions & limited land size, not to say ressources of mediums & larges houses,,, but fact is, without a dumb restriction that bane most of everybody everyone could build a mansion if they did/do put enough efforts in it) 109/10
    I agree with your sentiment, but that is more along the lines of a improvement in design (which is sorely needed) than the value of it. A house is a house. Sure you'll like some and not others depending on how each has its layout but the thing that is key to fixing the housing issue is its degree of availability, not the "feng shui" of it.

    To add clarity on my poor usage of English, the houses are all of the same worth, not the same value/interest.
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    If you say so.

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    I think your english is fine, yet i still disagree with your so called degree of availability making any size in any ward an equal value (& yes i understand what you are saying i halfly agree with that sentiment too as homeless is a thing in this game, & its not even about funds), besides that, i like feng shui.
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    Last edited by Ruf; 02-13-2018 at 07:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    I think your english is fine, yet i still disagree with your so called degree of availability making any size in any ward an equal value, besides i like feng shui.
    Can't blame you. I simply see that the more wards where there is housing available, be it The Goblet or Shirogane gives you the same opportunity to own a house, which to me is where the value of said opportunity lies. Hence why I disagree with him asking for all the housing on one option or two.
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    If you say so.

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    Ok yes i understand this, one housing area with more wards than others would be unbalanced & i agree, a house in goblet or a house in shiro is the same indeed still better than not owning one, but again some ppl prefer to be houseless over goblet lol, i personally dont mind goblet but for personal reasons i wont go there In a different situation i would.

    P.s: Some ppl relocated from a medium to a small in shirogane, so obviously for them its not the same value! lol they valued more a small over a medium
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    Last edited by Ruf; 02-13-2018 at 07:28 AM.