At this point the discussion is more about subjective ethics, morals and justifications, so agreeing to disagree seems to be the best option, I believe, as it is highly unlikely that anybody here is going to change their mind from what we've seen in the past.

For what it's worth, I despise the likes of Zenos - they do not benefit anyone, least of all Garlemald itself. I'm much fonder of the likes of Gaius and Regula who have more depth and redeeming qualities.